<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099</id><updated>2012-01-25T06:57:01.700-08:00</updated><category term='Case Order'/><category term='Addendum'/><category term='Kelabit'/><category term='-(n)tor'/><category term='Fonetica Latina'/><category term='Mariano Bassols de Climent'/><category term='r for d'/><category term='semantics of PIE resultative Dag Haug'/><category term='Marius Sala'/><category term='3rd sg. perf. -eit'/><category term='Quetglas'/><category term='Emergent Stops'/><category term='Sardinian'/><category term='Anton Mayer'/><category term='Trotsky'/><category term='corrigendum'/><category term='Latin future in Romance'/><category term='Final -s'/><category term='Etruscan lexical index'/><category term='Hidden Quantities'/><category term='FVVEIT'/><category term='Tronskij'/><category term='typo'/><category term='Hiems'/><category term='PIE Stop System'/><category term='Pamphylian'/><category term='lub'/><category term='Ernesto Faria'/><category term='Punic'/><category term='corrigenda'/><category term='Hungarian Comparative Grammar of Latin and Greek'/><category term='veho'/><category term='Sicanian'/><category term='J.N. Madvig'/><category term='Rasmus Rask'/><category term='Etruscan loans from Italic'/><category term='Pronunciation of C'/><category term='Papīrius'/><category term='Window sign'/><category term='Greek Aspirates in Latin'/><category term='Initial gn-'/><category term='H. H. Janssen'/><category term='Eretrian Graffiti'/><category term='Appius Claudius'/><category term='Dialectal e for *ei'/><category term='Rhotacism'/><category term='Madurese'/><category term='Grammarians on Latin Stress'/><category term='Sicily'/><category term='Madhav Deshpande'/><category term='C for /g/'/><category term='Etruscan alphabet'/><title type='text'>OHCGL Addenda and Corrigenda</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>187</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-862752079406847825</id><published>2012-01-25T06:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-25T06:57:01.712-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To the very brief discussion of aphaerisized forms of esse on pg. 426 n. 4 add the reference Pezzini 2011, which gives a very nice collection of evidence from the manuscripts and inscriptions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Pezzini, Giuseppe. 2011. "Contraction of &lt;i&gt;est&lt;/i&gt; in Latin." &lt;i&gt;Transactions of the Philological Society&lt;/i&gt; 109:327–43.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-862752079406847825?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/862752079406847825/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2012/01/addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/862752079406847825'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/862752079406847825'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2012/01/addendum.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5972384531396614153</id><published>2012-01-17T16:41:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T16:41:54.580-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Second Printing!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0QhwsWDND_I/TxYVF8AMNgI/AAAAAAAAAR0/nBKe1oeNev4/s1600/iphone-second-gen.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0QhwsWDND_I/TxYVF8AMNgI/AAAAAAAAAR0/nBKe1oeNev4/s320/iphone-second-gen.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The second corrected printing is now available. &amp;nbsp;If your library doesn't have it yet, get them to order it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5972384531396614153?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5972384531396614153/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2012/01/second-printing.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5972384531396614153'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5972384531396614153'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2012/01/second-printing.html' title='Second Printing!'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0QhwsWDND_I/TxYVF8AMNgI/AAAAAAAAAR0/nBKe1oeNev4/s72-c/iphone-second-gen.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-587624199645904326</id><published>2012-01-04T10:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-04T10:16:55.336-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Another ghost word</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 241 I cite the Hittite form &lt;i&gt;itar, itnaš&lt;/i&gt; as a cognate of Lat. &lt;i&gt;iter, itineris&lt;/i&gt;, but this word does not exist. Its one alleged occurrence (KUB 41.8 i 20) is now read as DUMU-&lt;i&gt;tar &lt;/i&gt;'offspring'. &amp;nbsp;See Jared Miller 2008. "Ein Ritual zur Reinigung eines Hauswesens durch eine Beschwörung an die Unterirdischen (CTH 446)" in B. Janowski and G. Wilhelm (eds.) &lt;i&gt;Texte aus der Umwelt des Alten Testaments&lt;/i&gt;, N.F. vol. 4, p. 209, fn. 97. The Tocharian cognates remain safe...for now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-587624199645904326?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/587624199645904326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2012/01/another-ghost-word.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/587624199645904326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/587624199645904326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2012/01/another-ghost-word.html' title='Another ghost word'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7194769420005851285</id><published>2011-11-16T11:48:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-16T19:42:37.183-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Von Bradke 1890</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 25px;"&gt;I see from Szemerényi's &lt;i&gt;Einführung&lt;/i&gt; that P. von Bradke introduced the &lt;i&gt;centum ~&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;satəm&lt;/i&gt; terminology in 1890 (&lt;i&gt;Methode und Ergebnisse der arischen (indogermanischen) Altertumswissenschaft&lt;/i&gt;, p. 63, and 107) not 1888 as I said on pg. 35, fn. 24. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7194769420005851285?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7194769420005851285/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/11/von-bradke-1890.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7194769420005851285'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7194769420005851285'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/11/von-bradke-1890.html' title='Von Bradke 1890'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6024876399444162412</id><published>2011-11-12T18:08:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-12T18:14:39.542-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; font-size: small;"&gt;A corrected second printing of OHCGL will soon be available (probably in January). I've been able to correct the minor typos and errors. This isn't a full second edition—I couldn't correct anything that required extensive rewriting.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Get your library to buy it if they don't have it yet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6024876399444162412?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6024876399444162412/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/11/corrected-second-printing-of-ohcgl-will.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6024876399444162412'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6024876399444162412'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/11/corrected-second-printing-of-ohcgl-will.html' title=''/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6633075018470110201</id><published>2011-10-02T16:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-02T16:31:16.042-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Reviews?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Dear Readers,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;If any reader knows of &amp;nbsp;reviews of OHCGL forthcoming or in print I'd be very grateful if he/she would let me know about them. &amp;nbsp;So far I have read James Clackson's review in BMCR and I know of forthcoming reviews in &lt;i&gt;Graeco-Latina Pragensia&lt;/i&gt;, which Professor Pultrová has kindly sent to me, and in &lt;i&gt;Das Altertum&lt;/i&gt;, which is still in preparation by Harald Bichlmeier. If you are writing a review or know of someone who has, please send it along to me so that I can correct any small mistakes before the second printing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Thanks,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Michael&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6633075018470110201?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6633075018470110201/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/10/reviews.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6633075018470110201'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6633075018470110201'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/10/reviews.html' title='Reviews?'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1165938013513082530</id><published>2011-08-18T17:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T17:39:02.575-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Sold out!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eq3XnWeVAOY/Tk2wf6MZS7I/AAAAAAAAARw/R8ANbj1zMVI/s1600/AuusieSellOutPromoHandbill-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eq3XnWeVAOY/Tk2wf6MZS7I/AAAAAAAAARw/R8ANbj1zMVI/s320/AuusieSellOutPromoHandbill-1.jpg" width="242" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first printing of OHCGL will soon be sold out. &amp;nbsp;This means I will get to do a corrected reprint. &amp;nbsp;So if you notice any small errors I haven't corrected yet, now is the time to let me know.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1165938013513082530?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1165938013513082530/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/08/sold-out.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1165938013513082530'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1165938013513082530'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/08/sold-out.html' title='Sold out!'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eq3XnWeVAOY/Tk2wf6MZS7I/AAAAAAAAARw/R8ANbj1zMVI/s72-c/AuusieSellOutPromoHandbill-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1351421692147415763</id><published>2011-07-22T07:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-22T07:42:59.168-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Bibliographical Addenda</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To the basic bibliography for Germanic given on pg. 11, &amp;nbsp;fn. 5 add:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;For Old Saxon: Tieffenbach 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;For Old Frisian: Hofmann and Popkema 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;For Old Netherlandic:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://gtb.inl.nl/?owner=ONW"&gt;http://gtb.inl.nl/?owner=ONW&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;Hofmann, Dietrich, Anne Tjerk Popkema, and Gisela Hofmann. 2008.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Altfriesisches&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Handwörterbuch&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;. Heidelberg: Universitätsverlag Winter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Tiefenbach, Heinrich. 2010.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Altsachsisches Handworterbuch: a Concise Old Saxon Dictionary&lt;/i&gt;. Berlin: De Gruyter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1351421692147415763?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1351421692147415763/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/bibliographical-addenda.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1351421692147415763'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1351421692147415763'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/bibliographical-addenda.html' title='Bibliographical Addenda'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7513409110275613570</id><published>2011-07-22T07:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-22T07:30:29.169-07:00</updated><title type='text'>New Companion to the Latin Language</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0t-oV5DvMBw/TimIb2unh4I/AAAAAAAAARs/RcQE31vj7sM/s1600/books.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0t-oV5DvMBw/TimIb2unh4I/AAAAAAAAARs/RcQE31vj7sM/s1600/books.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h1 class="parseasinTitle" style="color: black; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span id="btAsinTitle"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;I see that Google Books now has significant sections of the soon to be released&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=dOIhSzYc80MC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=companion+to+the+latin+language&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=lYcpTv7ZLoHZgQeonKGuCw&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;A Companion to the Latin Language&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; edited by James Clackson. &amp;nbsp;It's a little difficult to tell the complete contents from what is available there, but I can see the following: Rex Wallace has a chapter on "The Latin alphabet and Orthography"; James Clackson has written on "Latin Inscriptions and Documents" and "Inflectional Morphology". Matthew McCullaugh wrote the chapter "The Sound of Latin: Phonology". Ben Fortson contributed "Latin Prosody and Metrics". &amp;nbsp;I look forward to rea&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;ding the whole thing, which undoubtedly will be a valuable addition to the literature. Clackson 2011 should be added to the resources listed on pg. 15 fn. 34&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7513409110275613570?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7513409110275613570/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-companion-to-latin-language.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7513409110275613570'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7513409110275613570'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-companion-to-latin-language.html' title='New Companion to the Latin Language'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0t-oV5DvMBw/TimIb2unh4I/AAAAAAAAARs/RcQE31vj7sM/s72-c/books.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8545813043620653516</id><published>2011-07-08T11:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-08T11:59:29.577-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Correction pg. 365</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 365 change the gloss of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;simul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; from 'once', which in the meaning 'as soon as' is rarely attested for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;simul,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; to 'in company with, at the same time'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8545813043620653516?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8545813043620653516/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/correction-pg-365.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8545813043620653516'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8545813043620653516'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/correction-pg-365.html' title='Correction pg. 365'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1556857758589273877</id><published>2011-07-08T11:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-08T11:53:52.610-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Typo pg. 364, fn. 4</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 364, fn. 4 the last name of the great Celticist should be not &lt;i&gt;Green&lt;/i&gt;, but (David) &lt;i&gt;Greene&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1556857758589273877?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1556857758589273877/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/typo-pg-364-fn-4.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1556857758589273877'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1556857758589273877'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/typo-pg-364-fn-4.html' title='Typo pg. 364, fn. 4'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6778971596343655011</id><published>2011-07-08T11:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-08T11:40:38.281-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Correction pg. 138</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 138 &amp;nbsp;I write that an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; becomes&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;"in an open syllable before an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;in a following syllable". &amp;nbsp;This formulation works for the first two examples (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cinis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;kenis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;seni&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;) but it doesn't work for the second two examples (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;similis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;semlis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;vigilis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;weglis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;) because these do not contain &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; in an open syllable. It might be better to assume *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;semilis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;similis, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;but one would then have explain the survival of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; in other forms in -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ilis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;This doesn't seem to be too hard to do: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;senilis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, which has a long medial &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, can be analogical to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;senex&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Some, like Leumann, think this assimilation mainly operated over sonorants other than &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Additional examples of this sort would be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;milium&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'millet' (cf. Gk. μελίνη) and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;tilia&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'lime-tree' (cf. Gk. πτελέα 'elm-tree').&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6778971596343655011?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6778971596343655011/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/correction-pg-138.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6778971596343655011'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6778971596343655011'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/correction-pg-138.html' title='Correction pg. 138'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-350208293924034288</id><published>2011-07-05T12:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-05T13:09:48.012-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Correction pg. 417</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="clear: left; float: left; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Missing M from concrete installed bronze letters" border="1" height="150" src="http://www.signlettersource.com/article_images/missing-M.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 417 the 1st sg. optative active of Ved. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;bhar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;- should be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;bhareyam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; not &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;bhareya,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; which is the 1st sg. middle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-350208293924034288?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/350208293924034288/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/correction-pg-417.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/350208293924034288'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/350208293924034288'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/07/correction-pg-417.html' title='Correction pg. 417'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4542579765948789331</id><published>2011-06-23T07:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-24T07:49:22.455-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Clarification on Lat. ā in Early Loanwords into Celtic</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tEMxGZrzhrI/TgSgyw9rQzI/AAAAAAAAARo/9v8mCijV2KE/s1600/favas.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tEMxGZrzhrI/TgSgyw9rQzI/AAAAAAAAARo/9v8mCijV2KE/s320/favas.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;On pg. 508, fn. 36 I mention the view of Kenneth Jackson that early Latin loanwords into Celtic accurately reflect the distinction between Latin long and short &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; and in this regard would preserve evidence for a distinction that the direct Romance tradition never maintains. But reading Loporcaro's masterful essay in the &lt;i&gt;Cambridge History of the Romance Languages&lt;/i&gt; has made me realize that I did not cite the crucial evidence and that even that is not very clear. Loporcaro argues convincingly that short vowels were lengthened in stressed open syllables quite early in the proto-Romance period (which means that the rest of fn. 36 also needs some revision). &amp;nbsp;Hence the cited pair MW &lt;i&gt;caws&lt;/i&gt;, OIr. &lt;i&gt;cáisse&lt;/i&gt; 'cheese' from Latin &lt;i&gt;cāseus&lt;/i&gt; vs. OIr. &lt;i&gt;clann&lt;/i&gt; 'family' from Lat. &lt;i&gt;planta&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;is not conclusive evidence for the preservation—a fact which Jackson was well aware of. &amp;nbsp;What is needed to make the case would be instances of old loans with accented short &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; in an open syllable represented with a Celtic short a and conversely loans with a long &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; in a closed syllable represented with a Celtic long &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Off the top of my head I don't know of any examples of the latter sort, but Russell 1984 cited W &lt;i&gt;ffa&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; &lt;i&gt;faba&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;gradd&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; &lt;i&gt;gradus&lt;/i&gt; as examples of the former type. &amp;nbsp;These, however, are far from sealing the deal. &amp;nbsp;Note that Irish has &lt;i&gt;grád&lt;/i&gt; (o, n. Wb. etc.) with Open Syllable Lengthening and the fairly inexplicable &lt;i&gt;seib&lt;/i&gt; for &lt;i&gt;faba&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt; for &lt;i&gt;f&lt;/i&gt; is normal in early loans but the &lt;i&gt;e,&lt;/i&gt; which Thurneysen derived from a British pl. *&lt;i&gt;feib&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;fabī&lt;/i&gt;, is problematic since the word is feminine in British). More research required.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update: Anders points out the case of Welsh &lt;i&gt;mawrth&lt;/i&gt; 'March; Tuesday' &amp;lt;— Lat. &lt;i&gt;ma:rt-.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;So it is pretty clear that long a in a closed syllables was still distinctive at the time of the Celtic borrowings. &amp;nbsp;Irish has &lt;i&gt;márta&lt;/i&gt; 'March' which the DIL suggest might be a reinterpreted genitive of an i-stem Máirt &amp;lt; Ma:rtius, apparently not actually attested in the meaning March. NYC guy has inspired me to replace the bean picture with a true old world variety, fava beans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4542579765948789331?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4542579765948789331/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/clarification-on-lat-in-early-loanwords.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4542579765948789331'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4542579765948789331'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/clarification-on-lat-in-early-loanwords.html' title='Clarification on Lat. ā in Early Loanwords into Celtic'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tEMxGZrzhrI/TgSgyw9rQzI/AAAAAAAAARo/9v8mCijV2KE/s72-c/favas.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3052641663025284705</id><published>2011-06-22T12:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-22T12:16:00.221-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Romance Addenda</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-byEwVZhtcRs/TgI-xFEsFJI/AAAAAAAAARk/brLJZwHuMnI/s1600/coverpage.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-byEwVZhtcRs/TgI-xFEsFJI/AAAAAAAAARk/brLJZwHuMnI/s1600/coverpage.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Two new Romance resources to add to pg. 503:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(1) &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://romverbmorph.clp.ox.ac.uk/"&gt;Oxford Online Database of Romance Verb Morphology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;I haven't used it yet but it looks valuable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;(2) &lt;/span&gt;The Cambridge History of the Romance Languages&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Vol. 1: Structures, edited by Martin Maiden, John Charles Smith and Adam Ledgeway, Cambridge University Press.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;This book offers a pan-Romance perspective on various phonological, morphological, syntactic, pragmatic and lexical processes and patterns. &amp;nbsp;There are essays by Michele Loporcaro (Syllable, Segment and Prosody, and Phonological Processes), Arnulf Stefenelli (Lexical Stability), and Steven Dworkin (Lexical Change) among others.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3052641663025284705?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3052641663025284705/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/romance-addenda.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3052641663025284705'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3052641663025284705'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/romance-addenda.html' title='Romance Addenda'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-byEwVZhtcRs/TgI-xFEsFJI/AAAAAAAAARk/brLJZwHuMnI/s72-c/coverpage.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5604263687824043978</id><published>2011-06-11T06:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-11T06:29:54.468-07:00</updated><title type='text'>More Verification of Fibula Praenestina</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Through the kindness of Professor de Simone:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MTanjp1ymHg/TfNtqybIxHI/AAAAAAAAARg/mLbfV6DAB6o/s1600/Fibula+Prenestina.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MTanjp1ymHg/TfNtqybIxHI/AAAAAAAAARg/mLbfV6DAB6o/s320/Fibula+Prenestina.jpg" width="226" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5604263687824043978?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5604263687824043978/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/more-verification-of-fibula-praenestina.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5604263687824043978'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5604263687824043978'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/more-verification-of-fibula-praenestina.html' title='More Verification of Fibula Praenestina'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MTanjp1ymHg/TfNtqybIxHI/AAAAAAAAARg/mLbfV6DAB6o/s72-c/Fibula+Prenestina.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2856535423711273401</id><published>2011-06-10T04:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-10T04:54:18.120-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Missing Reference</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HN0lN2pX3V8/TfIFBGIjFZI/AAAAAAAAARc/rhXBenhyf3M/s1600/GrinnellGatesTower-medium-init-.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HN0lN2pX3V8/TfIFBGIjFZI/AAAAAAAAARc/rhXBenhyf3M/s1600/GrinnellGatesTower-medium-init-.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Professor &lt;a href="http://web.grinnell.edu/individuals/mercadoa/"&gt;Angelo Mercado&lt;/a&gt; of Grinnell College alerts me to a missing bibliographical item. On pg. 479 n. 6 I quote Leumann 1968 which is not to be found in the references. &amp;nbsp;The corresponding datum is:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Leumann, Manu. 1968. "Die Eingliederung entlehnter griechischer Verben ins Latein." &lt;i&gt;Studii Clasice&lt;/i&gt; 10:7-12.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Thanks, Angelo!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2856535423711273401?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2856535423711273401/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/missing-reference.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2856535423711273401'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2856535423711273401'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/06/missing-reference.html' title='Missing Reference'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HN0lN2pX3V8/TfIFBGIjFZI/AAAAAAAAARc/rhXBenhyf3M/s72-c/GrinnellGatesTower-medium-init-.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4446975871119749904</id><published>2011-05-25T14:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-27T09:29:12.867-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Goth. aleina</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 169 fn. 11 I claim that Go. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;aleina&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'ell' which would normally be phonologized as /ali:na/ is a mistake for *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;alina&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; with a short medial syllable. &amp;nbsp;This may indeed be correct but there is some evidence that might support the reality of long i, viz. MW &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;elin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'ellbow' which points to a proto-form *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;oli:na:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. I see there is an article that I will have to read by Dirk Boutkan in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Amsterdamer Beiträge zur älteren Germanistik&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Vol. 41, 1995 that seek to justify *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ali:na&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; for all Germanic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Update: Boutkan makes a good case that the Germanic forms can be derived from a Proto-Germanic *&lt;i&gt;ali:no&lt;/i&gt;:. He further argues that the word is a loan from Proto-Celtic *&lt;i&gt;oli:na:&lt;/i&gt; which come from *&lt;i&gt;ole:na:&lt;/i&gt; a derivative of the hysterokinetic n-stem continued in Gk. ὠλήν (usually ὠλένη). I'm not sure if that is the best way to handle these complicated data.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4446975871119749904?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4446975871119749904/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/05/goth-aleina.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4446975871119749904'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4446975871119749904'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/05/goth-aleina.html' title='Goth. aleina'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8985945162978567568</id><published>2011-05-22T18:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-22T18:10:51.686-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addenda to Bibliography:</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To pg. 12 fn. 7 add to the general bibliography for Celtic Ball and Muller 2009 which refers to the second edition of Ball,&amp;nbsp;Martin&amp;nbsp;and Nicole Muller (eds.),&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The Celtic Languages&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Routledge: New York. This edition is a significant improvement over the first in that it has essays covering the Medieval stages of the Celtic languages by David Stifter (Early Irish) and David Willis (Old and Middle Welsh). Joe Eska discusses "The Emergence of the Celtic Languages" and (together with D. Ellis Evans) "Continental Celtic."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Another second edition which should be added is Horrocks 2010 (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Geoffrey C. Horrocks,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Greek: A History of the Language and Its Speakers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Chichester/Malden, MA: Wiley-Blackwell)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;replacing Horrocks 1997 on pg. 18, fn. 53. See the review at &lt;a href="http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2011/2011-05-20.html"&gt;BMCR.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8985945162978567568?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8985945162978567568/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/05/addenda-to-bibliography.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8985945162978567568'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8985945162978567568'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/05/addenda-to-bibliography.html' title='Addenda to Bibliography:'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8090487230145946122</id><published>2011-05-16T18:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-16T18:22:11.761-07:00</updated><title type='text'>My Cliched Cover Image!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;All I can say is "oy!" Strangely, I happen to know to varying degrees the authors of these other books with Poussin on the cover.&amp;nbsp; Peter Bing was my first Greek teacher and Mario Erasmo was a grad student at Yale when I taught there, though I never taught him. I had no idea that these covers were out there.&amp;nbsp; I guess the image is just too good to pass up. Sorry, guys! I should have gone with David's Oath of the Horatii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Brill's Companion to Hellenistic Epigram (Brill's Companions in Classical Studies)" border="0" height="200" id="prodImage" onload="if (typeof uet == 'function') { uet('af'); }" onmouseover="" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/418zzs2K%2BtL._SL500_AA300_.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://i43.tower.com/images/mm113146042/reading-death-in-ancient-rome-mario-erasmo-hardcover-cover-art.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Reading Death in Ancient Rome (Hardcover) ~ Mario Erasmo (Author) Cover Art" border="0" height="200" src="http://i43.tower.com/images/mm113146042/reading-death-in-ancient-rome-mario-erasmo-hardcover-cover-art.jpg" style="border: 0px none;" width="131" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.beechstave.com/images/CGLCover.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img align="left" alt="" border="0" height="200" src="http://www.beechstave.com/images/CGLCover.jpg" width="135" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://i43.tower.com/images/mm113146042/reading-death-in-ancient-rome-mario-erasmo-hardcover-cover-art.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8090487230145946122?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8090487230145946122/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/05/my-cliched-cover-image.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8090487230145946122'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8090487230145946122'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/05/my-cliched-cover-image.html' title='My Cliched Cover Image!'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1267750075220206767</id><published>2011-04-19T07:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-19T07:06:40.823-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Corrigenda</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V-SU6Cl7xPs/Ta2WAYxz6MI/AAAAAAAAARY/7c9-EPJvwAQ/s1600/orientation_defs.gif" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="297" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V-SU6Cl7xPs/Ta2WAYxz6MI/AAAAAAAAARY/7c9-EPJvwAQ/s320/orientation_defs.gif" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;An email from Malte Liesner alerts me to an imprecise formulation. &amp;nbsp;On pg. 58 in discussion the pronunciation of Latin /t/ &amp;nbsp;I write "t was probably a true dental stop and not an alveolar as in English, to judge from the evidence of the Romance languages." In fact, the way I use dental vs. alveolar, although traditional, is not quite correct. In Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian &amp;nbsp;/t /and /d/ are generally produced as denti-alveolar laminals. &amp;nbsp;The primary place of articulation is the alveolar ridge, but the active articulator is the blade (lamina) of the tongue not the tip. &amp;nbsp;Because the blade is used to make the closure the tip of the tongue may be visible at the teeth. &amp;nbsp;In English, in contrast, for most speakers the tongue tip is used for&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;/t /and /d/&amp;nbsp;and hence these are alveolar apicals. Since the Romance languages agree on this laminal articulation I assume that it was simply inherited from Latin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Also on pg. 55 I give the date of Sturtevant's The Pronunciation of Greek and Latin as 1920, but that is the first edition. &amp;nbsp;In the bibliography I give the 1940 date of the second edition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Image from&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1509961005"&gt;h&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="ttp://sail.usc.edu/~lgoldste/General_Phonetics/Constriction_Location/index.html"&gt;ttp://sail.usc.edu/~lgoldste/General_Phonetics/Constriction_Location/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1267750075220206767?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1267750075220206767/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/04/corrigenda.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1267750075220206767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1267750075220206767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/04/corrigenda.html' title='Corrigenda'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V-SU6Cl7xPs/Ta2WAYxz6MI/AAAAAAAAARY/7c9-EPJvwAQ/s72-c/orientation_defs.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3803057536037274836</id><published>2011-01-18T12:07:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-16T10:44:14.708-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addenda to Bibliography: Update</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TTXwqJSmusI/AAAAAAAAARM/YT3F5dNWsfU/s1600/Meiser.2010.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TTXwqJSmusI/AAAAAAAAARM/YT3F5dNWsfU/s200/Meiser.2010.jpg" width="128" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TTXxetZlQqI/AAAAAAAAARQ/sk5pXe5P0Uw/s1600/Meier+Bru%25CC%2588gger+2010.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em; text-align: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TTXxetZlQqI/AAAAAAAAARQ/sk5pXe5P0Uw/s200/Meier+Bru%25CC%2588gger+2010.jpg" width="133" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: auto;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 10 replace Meier-Brügger 2003 with Meier-Brügger 2010, which is the 9th revised and expanded edition of &lt;i&gt;Indogermanische Sprachwisenschaft&lt;/i&gt;. The bibliography is outstanding and from it I learn that Gerhard Meiser's &lt;i&gt;Historische Laut- und Formenlehre der lateinischen Sprache&lt;/i&gt; had a 2nd edition in 2006 (apparently unchanged) and is now available in a 3rd edition (2010).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Meier-Brügger, Michael. 2010. &lt;i&gt;Indogermanische Sprachwissenschaft.&lt;/i&gt; 9th ed. Berlin: De Gruyter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;Update: &amp;nbsp;Professor Meiser informs me that the 3rd edition is in fact a reprint.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3803057536037274836?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3803057536037274836/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/01/addenda-to-bibliography.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3803057536037274836'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3803057536037274836'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/01/addenda-to-bibliography.html' title='Addenda to Bibliography: Update'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TTXwqJSmusI/AAAAAAAAARM/YT3F5dNWsfU/s72-c/Meiser.2010.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2013854268242281537</id><published>2011-01-14T16:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-14T16:23:52.876-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Corrigenda</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Will Sullivan alerts me to the following mistakes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 24 fn. 8 change "Herman 1997:114" to "Herman 2000:114".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 228 the quantities are wrong: the words &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pilus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'a hair' and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pila&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'ball' have short vowels as correctly given for pila on pg. 64 (oh the shame!!).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 110 change the gloss of &lt;i&gt;nostrās&lt;/i&gt; from 'our countrymen' to 'born in our country'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Thank you, Will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2013854268242281537?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2013854268242281537/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/01/corrigenda.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2013854268242281537'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2013854268242281537'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/01/corrigenda.html' title='Corrigenda'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4500448490716132332</id><published>2011-01-05T07:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-05T07:37:17.273-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Date of final -os to -us</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 140 I write "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font: 12.0px Times;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;An &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;in a final syllable before final -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;m&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, or -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;nt &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;became &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;u &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;already by the middle of the third century BCE" following the traditional dating of this change, but Kanehiro Nishimura in his 2008 UCLA Ph.D. dissertation,&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Vowel Reduction and Deletion in Italic: The Effects of Stress,&lt;/i&gt; calls attention to the form L[ECIO]NIBVS (ILLRP 7) in the Caso Cantovius inscription from near the Fucine Lake which dates to the end of the 4th century. &amp;nbsp;This suggest that the date of the change of &lt;i&gt;o&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;u&lt;/i&gt; at least before -&lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt; has to be pushed back at least 50 years or so. Similarly on pg. 192 in the list of the absolute chronology of sound changes change&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;"10.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-oC &amp;gt; -uC &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(3rd century BCE)" to "10.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-oC &amp;gt; -uC &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(ca. 300 BCE)."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4500448490716132332?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4500448490716132332/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/01/date-of-final-os-to-us.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4500448490716132332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4500448490716132332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2011/01/date-of-final-os-to-us.html' title='Date of final -os to -us'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7299968289963531674</id><published>2010-12-13T20:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-13T20:04:16.910-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Hungarian Linguists Sing "We are the World"</title><content type='html'>&lt;object height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/DIol1_ktcP4?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/DIol1_ktcP4?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;In honor of the 20th anniversary of theoretical linguistics at&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Eötvös Loránd University. &amp;nbsp;I believe the dark-haired, bearded fellow who sings second is noted Latin linguist András Cser. Congratulations!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7299968289963531674?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7299968289963531674/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/12/hungarian-linguists-sing-we-are-world.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7299968289963531674'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7299968289963531674'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/12/hungarian-linguists-sing-we-are-world.html' title='Hungarian Linguists Sing &quot;We are the World&quot;'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8452771176799560173</id><published>2010-12-03T14:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-03T15:16:41.296-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TPl1G9crJlI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/NGejf__5jkI/s1600/oldfrisiancover.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TPl1G9crJlI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/NGejf__5jkI/s320/oldfrisiancover.jpg" width="213" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To the bibliography for Old Frisian given on pg. 11, fn. 5 add Bremmer 2009.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Rolf H. Bremmer. 2009. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;An introduction to Old Frisian. History, grammar, reader, glossary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Amsterdam: John Benjamins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8452771176799560173?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8452771176799560173/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/12/addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8452771176799560173'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8452771176799560173'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/12/addendum.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TPl1G9crJlI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/NGejf__5jkI/s72-c/oldfrisiancover.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4110950873397080568</id><published>2010-11-28T09:17:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-28T16:21:41.336-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum and Corrigendum: the non-present stem of iterative-causatives</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TPKOngMVLcI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/ZF3DTadalFA/s1600/meretod.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="112" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TPKOngMVLcI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/ZF3DTadalFA/s400/meretod.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;On pg. 439 in discussing the origin of the p.p.p. in -&lt;i&gt;itus&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *-&lt;i&gt;etos&lt;/i&gt; of 2nd conjugation verbs I wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;At an early date, probably in western dialectal Proto-Indo-European,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; (fn. 55) the following analogy took place:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;*&lt;i&gt;kap-ye&lt;/i&gt;- : *&lt;i&gt;kap-to-&lt;/i&gt; :: *&lt;i&gt;moneye&lt;/i&gt;- : X, X = *&lt;i&gt;mone-to-&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;In other words, the suffix *-&lt;i&gt;eye&lt;/i&gt;- was reanalyzed as stem in &lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;- plus suffix *-&lt;i&gt;ye&lt;/i&gt;-. In the formation of the verbal adjective in *-&lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt;- the suffix *-&lt;i&gt;ye&lt;/i&gt;- was truncated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;In fn. 55 thereto I wrote: The same analysis and analogy is evidently reflected in the Germanic past participles of the first weak class, e.g. Goth. &lt;i&gt;nasiÞs&lt;/i&gt;* ‘saved’ &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;nosetos&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;This is not quite sufficient and not entirely correct either.&amp;nbsp; First, it was not just the p.p.p. that the stem in &lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;- is found but also in the perfect active in -&lt;i&gt;uī&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; from *&lt;i&gt;e-w-ai&lt;/i&gt;, e.g. &lt;i&gt;monuī&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;mone-wai&lt;/i&gt;. Second, the Gothic evidence is inconclusive since &lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt; can of course reflect either *&lt;i&gt;e &lt;/i&gt;or&lt;i&gt; *&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt; and in general the union vowel of p.p.p. copies the stem vowel of the present. As a matter of fact the isolated ON &lt;i&gt;mettr&lt;/i&gt; 'full, satiated' from the verb *&lt;i&gt;matija&lt;/i&gt;- 'to satiate' with &lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt;-umlaut points to a proto-form *&lt;i&gt;matiđa&lt;/i&gt;- with an *&lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt;. So it seems that Germanic did not partake of this innovation. Third, Celtic did partake in this innovation.&amp;nbsp; This is clear from Old Irish W 2 a verbs (old iterative-causatives) which contrast raising in the present stem, e.g. &lt;i&gt;do luigi &amp;lt; *-&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;log-ī&lt;/i&gt;- &amp;lt; *-&lt;i&gt;logeye&lt;/i&gt;-&lt;i&gt;ti&lt;/i&gt; vs. no raising in the &lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt;-preterite, e.g. &lt;i&gt;do loig&lt;/i&gt; 'forgave' &amp;lt; *-&lt;i&gt;loge-st&lt;/i&gt;, and in the pret. pass. -&lt;i&gt;logad&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *-&lt;i&gt;loge-to&lt;/i&gt;-, an old verbal adjective. Identical facts are seen in Middle Welsh where &lt;i&gt;ī&lt;/i&gt;-presents with &lt;i&gt;o&lt;/i&gt;-grade roots have pret. stems in -&lt;i&gt;es&lt;/i&gt;. This seems to be a a significant but under-appreciated common innovation of Italo-Celtic. See Schulze-Thulin 2001:86-9 with earlier literature.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Schulze-Thulin, Britta, 2001. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Studien zu den urindogermanischen o-stufigen Kausativa, Iterativa und Nasalpräsentien im Kymrischen&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;. Innsbruck: Innsbrucker Beiträge zur Sprachwissenschaft. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4110950873397080568?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4110950873397080568/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/addendum-and-corrigendum-non-present.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4110950873397080568'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4110950873397080568'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/addendum-and-corrigendum-non-present.html' title='Addendum and Corrigendum: the non-present stem of iterative-causatives'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TPKOngMVLcI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/ZF3DTadalFA/s72-c/meretod.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-704557174025391936</id><published>2010-11-20T04:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-20T04:48:26.288-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Rasenna Blog</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TOfDRD01riI/AAAAAAAAAQw/47-r_nbeZW0/s1600/TetniesBMFA1975-799-00021-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="83" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TOfDRD01riI/AAAAAAAAAQw/47-r_nbeZW0/s400/TetniesBMFA1975-799-00021-1.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I want to call your attention to the new &lt;a href="http://blogs.umass.edu/rwallace/"&gt;Rasenna Blog&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; just launched by my esteemed colleague and fellow &lt;a href="http://www.beechstave.com/etruscan.htm"&gt;Beech Stavite&lt;/a&gt;, Rex Wallace. The blog about Etruscan language and inscriptions promises to be fascinating.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-704557174025391936?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/704557174025391936/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/rasenna-blog.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/704557174025391936'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/704557174025391936'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/rasenna-blog.html' title='Rasenna Blog'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TOfDRD01riI/AAAAAAAAAQw/47-r_nbeZW0/s72-c/TetniesBMFA1975-799-00021-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5459407370948666250</id><published>2010-11-17T18:21:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-17T18:21:59.131-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Don't buy my book!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;from&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Outline-Historical-Comparative-Grammar-Latin/dp/0974792756"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;The Book Depository (I hope not located in Dallas) is selling my book for $152.15. &amp;nbsp;I don't know why you'd buy it from them and pay double what you could pay if you bought it from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.beechstave.com/weiss.htm"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Beech Stave&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; directly unless you just do whatever Amazon tells you to do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5459407370948666250?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5459407370948666250/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/dont-buy-my-book.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5459407370948666250'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5459407370948666250'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/dont-buy-my-book.html' title='Don&apos;t buy my book!'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2570108990899643380</id><published>2010-11-09T11:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-09T11:40:44.868-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Typo</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNmjcuq22-I/AAAAAAAAAQs/lq-mHuCDvMs/s1600/visitors_721x150.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="81" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNmjcuq22-I/AAAAAAAAAQs/lq-mHuCDvMs/s400/visitors_721x150.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Kevin Muse of the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee alerts me to this mistake o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;n p. 68 3. b "For this statement..." should read "From this statement..." &amp;nbsp;Kevin has also compiled a page-consecutive file of the corrections and additions to OHCGL made thus far which I intend to post soon—only the serious ones are included, not the silly ones. This way you will be able to print it out and keep it with your hard copy. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Thanks, Kevin!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2570108990899643380?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2570108990899643380/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/typo.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2570108990899643380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2570108990899643380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/typo.html' title='Typo'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNmjcuq22-I/AAAAAAAAAQs/lq-mHuCDvMs/s72-c/visitors_721x150.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4656502396776052495</id><published>2010-11-05T12:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-05T12:54:56.996-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Ligurrio etc.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNRgSngYxJI/AAAAAAAAAQY/WQuX6Iu_Qfg/s1600/abligurrierat.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNRgSngYxJI/AAAAAAAAAQY/WQuX6Iu_Qfg/s1600/abligurrierat.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 79 fn. 58 I cite the form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ligūriō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; in connection with the development of medial *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;gh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;However, the best attested spelling for this verb and apparently for its close relatives &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;scaturriō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;scalpurri&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;is with two r's. &amp;nbsp;Not surprisingly none of these verbs or their derivatives are attested in inscriptions, but the oldest codex of Terence the 4th/5th century Codex Bembinus has geminate -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;rr&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;- at lines 235 (ABLIGURRIERAT) and 936 (LIGURRIUNT) of the &lt;i&gt;Eunuchus&lt;/i&gt;. I don't yet know what to make of these forms from the historical point of view. &amp;nbsp;Given my stated views on the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;littera&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; rule, I'm not keen on deriving them from&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;-ūriō. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The image of l. 235 above is scanned from Sesto Preste, 1970.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Il codice di Terenzio vaticano latino 3226&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Vatican City: Biblioteca apostolica vaticana.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4656502396776052495?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4656502396776052495/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/ligurrio-etc.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4656502396776052495'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4656502396776052495'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/ligurrio-etc.html' title='Ligurrio etc.'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNRgSngYxJI/AAAAAAAAAQY/WQuX6Iu_Qfg/s72-c/abligurrierat.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4220225722450145146</id><published>2010-11-04T14:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-04T14:26:15.273-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A surprising mismatch</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNMkMmhB1VI/AAAAAAAAAQU/UWl1ybzSiUk/s1600/egg.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNMkMmhB1VI/AAAAAAAAAQU/UWl1ybzSiUk/s1600/egg.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 467 I mention the word &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ōvum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'egg' which seems not to have been affected by whatever rule changed *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;oktōwos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; into &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;octāvus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;This may have been due to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; occurring in the initial, i.e. in the Proto-Italic stressed syllable, as I said in the book, or, as Alexis Manaster Ramer suggests to me, due to the absolute initial position of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. In any case AMR also calls my attention to the strange fact that the Romance languages reflect Proto-Romance open &lt;i&gt;o&lt;/i&gt; (Ital. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;uovo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, Sp. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;huevo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, Fr. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;oeuf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;), which normally is the reflex of a Latin short o. There is no absolutely satisfactory explanation for this. &amp;nbsp;Meyer-Lübke suggested&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ōvum &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;became&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ōum &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;by regular loss of&lt;/span&gt; w b&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;efore a back vowel&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;and that became&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;oum &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;by pre-vocalic shortening. &amp;nbsp;The&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; w &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;was&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;then restored from the genitive&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ōvī. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Rohlfs also starts from&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;um &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;but since the reflexes of long&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and short&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; u &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;would both have been a close&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;he suggest that the first of the two identical vowels was dissimilated to an open&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; o. &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;This seems a bit more straightforward and has the parallel of Ital. &lt;/span&gt;tuo&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;tuoo&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;, cf. the plural &lt;/span&gt;tuoi,&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt; reflecting an open and not the expected &amp;nbsp;close &lt;/span&gt;o&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt; in the first syllable. &amp;nbsp;In any case the long vowel of Latin&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ōvum &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;is very well established starting from Ennius'&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Ova parire&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;solet genus pennis condecoratum&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4220225722450145146?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4220225722450145146/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/surprising-mismatch.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4220225722450145146'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4220225722450145146'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/surprising-mismatch.html' title='A surprising mismatch'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TNMkMmhB1VI/AAAAAAAAAQU/UWl1ybzSiUk/s72-c/egg.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4120087126612835428</id><published>2010-11-04T09:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-04T09:46:40.188-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A New Lemnian Inscription</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Through the kindness of Professor Carlo de Simone I've learned of a significant new inscription in the "Tyrsenian" language of Lemnos. &amp;nbsp;The inscription from the site of Efestia is on a rectangular stone block once probably supporting a dedicated object. It reads&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;soromš : aslaš hktaonosi&amp;nbsp;: heloke&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The interpuncts actually have three points. &amp;nbsp;The form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;heloke&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is almost certainly a preterite 3rd sg. verb form and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;hktaonosi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; probably a pertinentive.&amp;nbsp;soromš&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;aslaš are probably the subject phrase.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;See de Simone, Carlo. 2009. La nuova iscrizione tirsenica di Efestia. In Aglaia Archontidou,&amp;nbsp;Carlo de Simone, and Emanuele Greco (eds.) &lt;i&gt;Gli scavi di Efestia e lanuova iscrizione ‘tirsenica’&lt;/i&gt;. Athens: Scuola Archeologica Italiana di Atene.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4120087126612835428?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4120087126612835428/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-lemnian-inscription.html#comment-form' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4120087126612835428'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4120087126612835428'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-lemnian-inscription.html' title='A New Lemnian Inscription'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8384678975064928290</id><published>2010-10-24T05:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-24T05:33:23.132-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Bibliographical Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TMQnW6p1L6I/AAAAAAAAAQM/OQGrR6OpsW4/s1600/romance+rosen1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TMQnW6p1L6I/AAAAAAAAAQM/OQGrR6OpsW4/s1600/romance+rosen1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;To the basic bibliography for Romance given on pg. 503 add the new book by my Cornell colleagues Ti Alkire and Carol Rosen:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Alkire, Ti, and Carol G. Rosen. 2010. &lt;i&gt;Romance languages: a historical  introduction&lt;/i&gt;. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8384678975064928290?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8384678975064928290/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/bibliographical-addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8384678975064928290'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8384678975064928290'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/bibliographical-addendum.html' title='Bibliographical Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TMQnW6p1L6I/AAAAAAAAAQM/OQGrR6OpsW4/s72-c/romance+rosen1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5042908346782753023</id><published>2010-10-22T12:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-22T13:52:07.303-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Linguistics Professor/Movie Star</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TMHiHs2UbOI/AAAAAAAAAQI/ttDot2DXKog/s1600/umberto_d_8-300x225.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TMHiHs2UbOI/AAAAAAAAAQI/ttDot2DXKog/s1600/umberto_d_8-300x225.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;How many professors of historical linguistics have also been the lead actor in a major motion picture? To my knowledge only one: Carlo Battisti (1882-1977), the co-author of Battisti and Alessio 1950–7 &lt;i&gt;Dizionario etimologico italiano&lt;/i&gt; and a professor of glottologia at Florence, was also the star of the Vittorio De Sica's Umberto D, a&amp;nbsp; neorealist classic about an old man (Umberto D.) and his dog (named strangely Flaik). Battisti plays the part marvelously.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5042908346782753023?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5042908346782753023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/linguistic-professormovie-star.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5042908346782753023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5042908346782753023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/linguistic-professormovie-star.html' title='Linguistics Professor/Movie Star'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TMHiHs2UbOI/AAAAAAAAAQI/ttDot2DXKog/s72-c/umberto_d_8-300x225.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-9190323761629985173</id><published>2010-10-12T08:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-12T11:13:35.508-07:00</updated><title type='text'>pons, pontis</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Filip De Decker alerts me to a confusing formulation on pg. 316 where I identify a subclass of -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ti&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-stems with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-grade including&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; frons, frontis; fons, fontis; mons, montis &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; pons, pontis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Synchronically this is of course true, but in the case of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pons&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; the root is *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;- (cf. Gk. πόντ-ος ‘sea’ and PDE &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;find&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;) and hence the morpheme boundary was originally after the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pont&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-) and not before it (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pon-t-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-9190323761629985173?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/9190323761629985173/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/pons-pontis.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/9190323761629985173'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/9190323761629985173'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/pons-pontis.html' title='pons, pontis'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1628654447481006759</id><published>2010-10-05T06:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-05T06:13:24.118-07:00</updated><title type='text'>inserinuntur and solinunt</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Michiel de Vaan points out that on pg. 386 fn. 39 where I list the OL alternative 3rd plural forms in -&lt;i&gt;nunt&lt;/i&gt;, e.g. &lt;i&gt;danunt, redīnun&lt;/i&gt;t, etc. I give the forms &lt;i&gt;inserinuntur&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;solinunt&lt;/i&gt; with long &lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt;'s, but this is incorrect. There is no positive evidence for a long vowel in either case and a long &lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt; in &lt;i&gt;inserinuntur &lt;/i&gt;might&amp;nbsp; adversely affect the scansion of the Saturnian in which it occurs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1628654447481006759?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1628654447481006759/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/inserinuntur-and-solinunt.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1628654447481006759'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1628654447481006759'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/10/inserinuntur-and-solinunt.html' title='inserinuntur and solinunt'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4387090430475849434</id><published>2010-09-27T19:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-27T19:01:18.645-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Response to Comments</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Dear Commentors,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Somehow I've failed to see a few comments posted long ago until today! &amp;nbsp;I'm afraid I appeared ungracious. Thanks especially to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/02/lesser-known-historical-grammars-of.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Zsolt Simon, Bulbul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/02/update-on-casus-interrogandi.html?showComment=1279469932970#c431491179846634873"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Docente &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;for their helpful comments. Of course, I am delighted if anyone reads this blog and takes the time to comment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Michael&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4387090430475849434?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4387090430475849434/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/response-to-comments.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4387090430475849434'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4387090430475849434'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/response-to-comments.html' title='Response to Comments'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8858821998296987390</id><published>2010-09-26T06:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-26T06:53:13.684-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Bibliographical Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;To the general bibliography for Germanic given on p. 11, n. 5. add&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Müller, Stefan, 2007. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/35vx8qo"&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Zum Germanischen aus laryngaltheoretischer Sicht. Mit einer Einführung in die Grundlagen der Laryngaltheorie&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;. Berlin: Walter de Gruyter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8858821998296987390?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8858821998296987390/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/bibliographical-addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8858821998296987390'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8858821998296987390'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/bibliographical-addendum.html' title='Bibliographical Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6320097229233925113</id><published>2010-09-23T05:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-23T05:44:13.459-07:00</updated><title type='text'>More on More on Root Aorists</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Apropos of &lt;a href="http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-root-aorist-in-latin.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;fūdī&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, Alan Nussbaum reminds me that the root is *&lt;i&gt;gh'ew&lt;/i&gt;- and that the -&lt;i&gt;do/e&lt;/i&gt;- (an extension also seen in Goth. &lt;i&gt;giutan&lt;/i&gt; 'to pour') of the Latin verb is in origin a present-forming suffix ( cf. &lt;i&gt;pellō&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;pel-dō&lt;/i&gt; vs. perf&lt;i&gt;. pepulī&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;pe-pol-&lt;/i&gt;). But if *-&lt;i&gt;do/e&lt;/i&gt;- was a present formant, then the perf. &lt;i&gt;fūd&lt;/i&gt;- has its -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt;-  analogically from the present, and this favors an analogical explanation for &lt;i&gt;fūdī, &lt;/i&gt;e.g.&lt;i&gt; winko/e-&lt;/i&gt; : &lt;i&gt;wi:k&lt;/i&gt;- =  &lt;i&gt;fundo/e&lt;/i&gt;- : X.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6320097229233925113?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6320097229233925113/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-on-more-on-root-aorists.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6320097229233925113'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6320097229233925113'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-on-more-on-root-aorists.html' title='More on More on Root Aorists'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-706954010643366844</id><published>2010-09-21T08:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-21T18:33:01.785-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Scansion of dat. sg. ei in Classical Latin</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;In his review James Clackson points out correctly that it is misleading to say, as I do on pg. 342, that the monosyllabic scansion of dat. sg.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; ei&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; is typical for Classical Latin. All forms of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;is, ea, id&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; were less common in Classical (Augustan) poetry than prose and the oblique forms were especially rare. See Meader 1901 for some statistics. The dative singular is not used at all by Vergil or the Elegaic poets. There are, however, a number of instances of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; ei&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; in Late Republican and Imperial poetry:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;At Catull. 82.3 (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;eripere ei noli, multo quod carius illi)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;ei&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; must be a monosyllable, but at Ps.-Ov. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;Hal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;. 34 (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;semper ei similis quem contegit, atque ubi praedam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;) it must be an iamb. Similarly at Germanicus' &lt;i&gt;Arat&lt;/i&gt;. 333 (&lt;i&gt;t&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;alis ei custos aderit canis ore timendo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;) and 457 (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;lactis ei color, et mediis via lucet in umbris&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;). The form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;ei&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; also occurs in epigraphic poetry once as a long monosyllable at CIL 3.10501 (= Buecheler CLE 489, Aquincum): &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;vox ei grata fuit, pulsabat pollice cordas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; and once as an iamb at CIL 3.754 (Buecheler CLE 492:15, 3rd cent. CE, Nicopolis): &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;intima nulla ei quae non mihi nota fuer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;e, a poem which Buecheler says is o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;mni genere vitiorum deformatum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;There are some other instances of &lt;i&gt;ei&lt;/i&gt; in CLE but the scansions are uncertain. &amp;nbsp;Since the form was so rare it hardly makes sense to say that any scansion was typical.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;Meader, Clarence Linton. 1901. &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;The Latin pronouns: &lt;/i&gt;is, hic, iste, ipse. &lt;i&gt;A semasiological study.&lt;/i&gt; London: Macmillan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-706954010643366844?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/706954010643366844/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/scansion-of-dat-sg-ei-in-classical.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/706954010643366844'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/706954010643366844'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/scansion-of-dat-sg-ei-in-classical.html' title='The Scansion of dat. sg. ei in Classical Latin'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6245455671214531932</id><published>2010-09-20T12:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-20T12:35:26.734-07:00</updated><title type='text'>-ĕrunt is Not Absent from Classical Poetry</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;As Clackson points out, I made a mistake in representing the statistics for the 3rd plural perfect endings. &amp;nbsp;I followed the presentation of Bauer 1933, but Bauer lumped together -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ērunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ĕrunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; in his counts whereas I separated them. &amp;nbsp;This creates the misleading impression that&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ĕrunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;nbsp;is not attested in Vergil or Horace, but that is wrong. &amp;nbsp;According to Pye 1963 -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;erunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is attested at Verg. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 4.61, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 2.129, 3.283, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Aen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 2.774, 3.48, 3.681 and 10.334. So the figures for Vergil should be corrected to -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ērunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 22 vs. -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ĕrunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 7. In Horace according to Pye there are three examples of -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ĕrunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Epod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 9.17, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 1.10.45, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Ep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 1.4.7). So the figures for the Satires should be corrected to&amp;nbsp;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ērunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 10 vs. -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ĕrunt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 1. &amp;nbsp;The figures for Plautus, Terence, and Juvenal are correct.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;See D. Pye. 1963. &lt;i&gt;Latin 3rd plural perf. ind. act. endings in verse usage&lt;/i&gt;. TPhS:1-27.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6245455671214531932?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6245455671214531932/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/erunt-is-not-absent-from-classical.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6245455671214531932'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6245455671214531932'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/erunt-is-not-absent-from-classical.html' title='-ĕrunt is Not Absent from Classical Poetry'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5507164405854668483</id><published>2010-09-20T11:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-20T11:18:20.925-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Osc. pui</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJelJZQ7EgI/AAAAAAAAAPw/IKRFW1tYJqk/s1600/images-1.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJelJZQ7EgI/AAAAAAAAAPw/IKRFW1tYJqk/s320/images-1.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The Oscan form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; at Cp. 37.1, as Clackson points out, is not exactly attested. &amp;nbsp;The sequence actually reads according to Rix's edition &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pụ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;[&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; / &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ị&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;The lithograph produced by Buecheler in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;RhM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 1878 shows just the tail of something that could be an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. If the restoration is correct we have a virtual &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, but a more important issue is whether &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is the nom. sg. as I interpreted it or the dat. sg. = Lat. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. (so Vetter p. 424). &amp;nbsp;Looking at the context again (the so-called Curse of Vibia) it seems more probable to me now that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; if correctly restored is a dat. sg. If that is the case it could not be an exact morphological match for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, but a simple remodeling of the inherited form on the basis of the thematic dat. sg. So at p. 351 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; should simply be stricken and at p. 470 the Umb. form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;poi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; or the Osc. nom. sg. fem. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;paí&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; should be substituted&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5507164405854668483?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5507164405854668483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/osc-pui.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5507164405854668483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5507164405854668483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/osc-pui.html' title='Osc. pui'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJelJZQ7EgI/AAAAAAAAAPw/IKRFW1tYJqk/s72-c/images-1.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4196189987321227751</id><published>2010-09-20T10:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-20T10:38:55.499-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Meddíks</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;As James Clackson points out the form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;meddíks&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; that I cite at pp. 75 and 238 ( but not at&amp;nbsp;159. n. 5 &amp;nbsp;where I cite the Latinized form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;meddix&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; as at Liv. 23.35.13)&amp;nbsp;is a nominative plural &amp;lt;&amp;nbsp;*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;med(o)-dik-es&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;with final syllable syncope of the old athematic nom. pl. ending *-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;es&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;The nom. sg. is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;meddíss&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (Cm 10 etc.) with assimilation from &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;med(o)-dik-s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4196189987321227751?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4196189987321227751/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/meddiks.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4196189987321227751'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4196189987321227751'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/meddiks.html' title='Meddíks'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8885370719192334459</id><published>2010-09-20T10:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-28T16:28:02.882-07:00</updated><title type='text'>More Root Aorists in Latin</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJeX0OERAGI/AAAAAAAAAPo/vv8fkIYYatU/s1600/StrawberryRootLesion.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJeX0OERAGI/AAAAAAAAAPo/vv8fkIYYatU/s320/StrawberryRootLesion.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;In his review James Clackson correctly points out that I underestimated the role of the root aorist in the formation of the Latin perfect system. &amp;nbsp;I said on pg. 412 that "Latin does not continue any clear traces of the root aorist". &amp;nbsp;In the footnote thereto I mentioned the possible explanation of the lengthened grade of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;vēnī&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; as generalized from 1st sg. *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;gwēm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;gwem-m&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; and 2nd sg. *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;gwēn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;gwem&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;s.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;It's true that no personal ending of the perfect system can be directly traced to a root aorist, but there are a number of perfect forms that I failed to mention that most plausibly continue root aorists. &amp;nbsp;The best cases are:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;1. OL&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;f&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;ū&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;ī&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt; ' I was' matches Ved. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;ábhūt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8885370719192334459?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8885370719192334459/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-root-aorist-in-latin.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8885370719192334459'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8885370719192334459'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-root-aorist-in-latin.html' title='More Root Aorists in Latin'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJeX0OERAGI/AAAAAAAAAPo/vv8fkIYYatU/s72-c/StrawberryRootLesion.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-978285897151744043</id><published>2010-09-20T04:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-20T04:06:54.469-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The True Cost</title><content type='html'>The BMCR review gives the cost of OHCGL as $110, but that is the "list price".&amp;nbsp; If you purchase the book directly from Beech Stave Press (the best way to get it) the cost is $75.&amp;nbsp; Not cheap, I know.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-978285897151744043?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/978285897151744043/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/true-cost.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/978285897151744043'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/978285897151744043'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/true-cost.html' title='The True Cost'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7632864815292828163</id><published>2010-09-19T16:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-19T16:52:26.498-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The First Review is In</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJah4hoctKI/AAAAAAAAAPg/MPjgyIEIVbA/s1600/sunset-200x200.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJah4hoctKI/AAAAAAAAAPg/MPjgyIEIVbA/s400/sunset-200x200.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;A nice review of OHCGL at Bryn Mawr Classical Review by James Clackson of Cambridge.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bmcreview.org/2010/09/20100935.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;http://www.bmcreview.org/2010/09/20100935.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Professor Clackson has found some more things for me to correct. &amp;nbsp;I will post those here in the next few days. Thanks!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7632864815292828163?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7632864815292828163/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/first-review-is-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7632864815292828163'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7632864815292828163'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/first-review-is-in.html' title='The First Review is In'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJah4hoctKI/AAAAAAAAAPg/MPjgyIEIVbA/s72-c/sunset-200x200.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8023171629939025278</id><published>2010-09-18T14:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-18T14:33:26.405-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Ex Anatolia Lux!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJUqHHG3ltI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/Bz0JAgWhSiw/s1600/Ex+anatolia+Lux.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJUqHHG3ltI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/Bz0JAgWhSiw/s320/Ex+anatolia+Lux.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; font-size: small;"&gt;I'd like to take the opportunity to announce the publication of &lt;i&gt;Ex Anatolia Lux: Anatolian and Indo-European studies in honor of H. Craig Melchert&lt;/i&gt;. Ann Arbor: &lt;a href="http://www.beechstave.com/"&gt;Beech Stave Press&lt;/a&gt; of which I was one of the four editors (the others being my esteemed colleagues Ron Kim, Elisabeth Rieken, and Norbert Oettinger). The volume was presented at the recent UCLA meeting of the Indogermanische Fachtagung on the Indo-European Verb.&amp;nbsp; I'm happy to say that the volume was (apparently) a complete surprise to the honorand! Most articles are naturally Anatolo-centric, but Olav Hackstein's "Latenisch &lt;i&gt;omnis"&lt;/i&gt; (pp. 75–84) takes the etymology of &lt;i&gt;omnis&lt;/i&gt; from *&lt;i&gt;opnis&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt;— &lt;i&gt;op&lt;/i&gt;- 'abundance' (mentioned in passing at OHCGL, p. 140) from possible to very probable. Incidentally, a cognate of &lt;i&gt;omnis&lt;/i&gt; appears in the Venetic Tavola da Este in the phrase &lt;i&gt;to ommni opedon&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;I also have an article about an Italic subject: "Two Sabellic Praenomina" (pp. 363–374).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8023171629939025278?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8023171629939025278/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/ex-anatolia-lux.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8023171629939025278'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8023171629939025278'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/ex-anatolia-lux.html' title='Ex Anatolia Lux!'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TJUqHHG3ltI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/Bz0JAgWhSiw/s72-c/Ex+anatolia+Lux.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4765299963763475793</id><published>2010-09-04T11:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-04T11:37:55.964-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Spepondi</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;On pg. 410 I mention that Aulus Gellius (6.9) attests the form &lt;i&gt;spepondī&lt;/i&gt; as an archaic but still classical variant for the regular &lt;i&gt;spopondī&lt;/i&gt;. I should also have noted that the &lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;-reduplicated form is also attested inscriptionally in the form SPEPODI in the wax tablets discovered in Moregine near Pompeii and composed by C. Novius Eunus (1st cent. CE, 15.2.11, 16.3.3, 17.3.5, 18.3.7). Interestingly some of these documents (15 and 18) exist&amp;nbsp; in two versions, one by Eunus himself with many spelling "errors", and one by a professional scribe with correct spellings. In the case of this particular word the scribe uses the standard form &lt;i&gt;spopondi&lt;/i&gt; at 15.5.9, 18.5.16.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;See Adams, J. N. 1990. The Latinity of C. Novius Eunus. &lt;i&gt;Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik&lt;/i&gt; 82:227–247.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4765299963763475793?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4765299963763475793/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/spepondi.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4765299963763475793'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4765299963763475793'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/09/spepondi.html' title='Spepondi'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3095926210020355072</id><published>2010-08-29T06:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-29T06:57:25.409-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Umbrian-inspired jewelry</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/THpmGxBAb1I/AAAAAAAAAPI/mjoibD69a0c/s1600/Umbrian+Jewelry.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="267" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/THpmGxBAb1I/AAAAAAAAAPI/mjoibD69a0c/s400/Umbrian+Jewelry.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Haven't found any new mistakes or missing refs. recently so I thought I'd post this beautiful piece of Umbrian-inspired jewelry made by Paula Ardis Weiss of Peoria, Arizona, AKA my sister. I see a few real words in the last line and the bird must be a &lt;i&gt;peica mersta!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3095926210020355072?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3095926210020355072/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/08/umbrian-inspired-jewelry.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3095926210020355072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3095926210020355072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/08/umbrian-inspired-jewelry.html' title='Umbrian-inspired jewelry'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/THpmGxBAb1I/AAAAAAAAAPI/mjoibD69a0c/s72-c/Umbrian+Jewelry.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1529768310131280203</id><published>2010-08-12T05:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-12T10:30:04.359-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TGPmYWwuVAI/AAAAAAAAAOk/t4pOdyvQODY/s1600/CILVI+Indez.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TGPmYWwuVAI/AAAAAAAAAOk/t4pOdyvQODY/s320/CILVI+Indez.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;An invaluable resource for the study of the language of Latin inscriptions from Rome (De Gruyter 2006):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;CIL VI.&amp;nbsp;Inscriptiones urbis Romae Latinae.&amp;nbsp;pars VI, fasc. III.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;Grammatica quaedam erroresque quadratarii et alias rationes scribendi notabiliores&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;. Composuit A. E. GORDON† adiutante J. S. GORDON†. Auxerunt et edenda curaverunt U. JANSEN et H. KRUMMREY.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1529768310131280203?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1529768310131280203/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/08/addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1529768310131280203'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1529768310131280203'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/08/addendum.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TGPmYWwuVAI/AAAAAAAAAOk/t4pOdyvQODY/s72-c/CILVI+Indez.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4957596343338817865</id><published>2010-08-04T10:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-06T09:37:50.134-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Two Addenda from Solin</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;On pg. 202 fn. 33 I give a list of some Republican epigraphical examples of the alternate consonant-stem gen. sg. ending -&lt;i&gt;os&lt;/i&gt; or -&lt;i&gt;us&lt;/i&gt;, but I didn't know that according to Solin 1991:354 forms in -&lt;i&gt;us &lt;/i&gt;are found as late as the the Augustan period, e.g. AERVS (CIL 4.2440, 3 BCE), CAESARVS (i.e. Octavian, CIL XI 6721.13).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;On pg. 213–4 I discuss the replacement of the &lt;i&gt;o&lt;/i&gt;-stem locative for place names by the ablative and note that this replacement begins to turn up in the late 1st century BCE, however, I didn't say anything about the replacement of the &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;-stem ending -&lt;i&gt;ae&lt;/i&gt; by -&lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;. Löfstedt, &lt;i&gt;Syntactica&lt;/i&gt; II, pg. 76 claimed that the ending -&lt;i&gt;ae&lt;/i&gt; hung on tenaciously for many more centuries and dates the first certain cases of the locatival ablative for place names to the 5th century.&amp;nbsp; But Solin 1997:143 points out that epigraphical examples are known from at least the 1st century CE, e.g. Q. VIBIVS P. F. QVI(RINA) KANIO TREBVLA, where some editors erroneously emend to TREBVLAE. Whether Löfstedt's point in modified form is still valid requires further investigation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Solin, H. 1991. Analecta epigraphica. (CXLIII. Zu republikanischen Inschrfifen 146–54). &lt;i&gt;Arctos&lt;/i&gt; 25:139–56.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;———. 1997. Analecta epigraphica. (CLXVIII. Ablativ statt lokativ in Städtnamen 142) &lt;i&gt;Arctos&lt;/i&gt; 31:135–147. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4957596343338817865?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4957596343338817865/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/08/two-addenda-from-solin.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4957596343338817865'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4957596343338817865'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/08/two-addenda-from-solin.html' title='Two Addenda from Solin'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3302709390772607375</id><published>2010-07-28T12:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-28T12:06:09.153-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Etruscan o</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟᛟ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ᛟᛟᛟ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 27 I wrote "Since Etruscan did not have a contrast between /o/ and /u/ they eliminated the sign." This sentence needs some elaboration. &amp;nbsp;First of all, archaic Etruscan alphabets do retain the letter &lt;o&gt; as a dead letter. &amp;nbsp;See Wallace 2008:17–18. Second, while it is true that there was no contrast between /o/ and /u/ in Etruscan it now seems pretty clear that the Etruscans did have a way of writing /o/. In addition to the well known case of the bilingual inscription from Pesaro which has the form &lt;/o&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;frontac&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (Um 1.7, 1st BCE), there is now also a form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cnovies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; in an 5th century BCE inscription for Civita Castellana (CIE II, 1, 5). The inscription reads &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cnovi{e}ies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;mi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; "I am of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cnovie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;". Given its location the inscription&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;probably recording a Faliscan praenomen—hence the attempt to represent the "exophoneme" /o/—but &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;mi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and the genitive ending -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;es&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; shows the text was Etruscan. &amp;nbsp;The shape of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; in both these examples is like a vertical fish (see this image of the Pesaro bilingual &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/frontac"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;.) and this is precisely the shape that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; has in the (indirectly) Etruscan-derived Runic alphabet as illustrated above.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;See Maras, D. F. 2009. Note in margine al CIE II, 1, 5. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Studi etruschi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 74:237–47.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3302709390772607375?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3302709390772607375/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/07/etruscan-o.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3302709390772607375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3302709390772607375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/07/etruscan-o.html' title='Etruscan o'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1520043702965350517</id><published>2010-07-21T08:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T08:21:29.776-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum and Corrigenda</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TEcPu6VywlI/AAAAAAAAAOc/mZrSSUcaU-g/s1600/malzahn.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TEcPu6VywlI/AAAAAAAAAOc/mZrSSUcaU-g/s320/malzahn.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To the basic bibliography for Tocharian given on pg. 21 fn. 79 add Malzahn, Melanie. 2010. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The Tocharian Verbal System&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Leiden: Brill. This book will be an invaluable resource for years to come. It provides an overview and synchronic and diachronic analysis of the categories of the Tocharian verb and a lexicon of the attested Averbo of each Tocharian verbal root. Checking my index against Malzahn I uncovered a few imprecise statements and errors on my part.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 82 as a cognate of &lt;i&gt;luō&lt;/i&gt; I cite the TA present stem &lt;i&gt;lunā&lt;/i&gt;- with the gloss 'release' ('send' would have been better). According to Malzahn p. 854 the present stem is not actually attested in TA although it was restored as &lt;i&gt;lun(āmäs&lt;/i&gt;) in one fragment by Sieg and Siegling. &amp;nbsp;The TB present is the Class III form &lt;i&gt;lyewetär&lt;/i&gt;, which I should have cited instead.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 407 as the cognate of Lat.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;escit&lt;/i&gt; I cite a non-existent TB &lt;i&gt;ske&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;The 3rd pl. of the copula is indeed &lt;i&gt;skente&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;h1s-sk'onto&lt;/i&gt;, but the singular is &lt;i&gt;ste&lt;/i&gt; which may come from *&lt;i&gt;h1s-sk'e-to&lt;/i&gt;. See Pinault 2008:642 for more details.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 408 fn. 31 I discuss whether Lat. &lt;i&gt;cūdō&lt;/i&gt; and TB &lt;i&gt;kaut&lt;/i&gt;- 'split' can be reconciled via *&lt;i&gt;kewh2dhe-&lt;/i&gt;, but Malzahn prefers to analyze the Tocharian form as a denominative in which case the question is moot. &amp;nbsp;In the last sentence in that note change the possible proto-form of &lt;i&gt;kaut&lt;/i&gt;- from *&lt;i&gt;keh2dh&lt;/i&gt;- (a typo) to *&lt;i&gt;keh2udh&lt;/i&gt;-.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 413 fn. 13 following others I compared Lat. &lt;i&gt;lēgī&lt;/i&gt; to TB &lt;i&gt;lyāka&lt;/i&gt; 'I saw' but see Malzahn p. 838–9 for some of the difficulties involved in that comparison.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1520043702965350517?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1520043702965350517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/07/addendum-and-corrigenda.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1520043702965350517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1520043702965350517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/07/addendum-and-corrigenda.html' title='Addendum and Corrigenda'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TEcPu6VywlI/AAAAAAAAAOc/mZrSSUcaU-g/s72-c/malzahn.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6622277595775180156</id><published>2010-07-17T09:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-17T09:13:14.014-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TEHWXlEmsXI/AAAAAAAAAOU/jq-XDjz-F8E/s1600/6748.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TEHWXlEmsXI/AAAAAAAAAOU/jq-XDjz-F8E/s320/6748.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Apologies for failure to blog for last three weeks. &amp;nbsp;I was co-teaching (with Jeremy Rau) a two-week seminar in Greek comparative grammar and Greek dialects. &amp;nbsp;In the course of preparing for that class I got my first good look at the volume &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;A History of Ancient Greek: &amp;nbsp;From the Beginnings to Late Antiquity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, edited by A.-F. Christidis with the assistance of Maria Arapoloulou and Maria Chriti. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. &amp;nbsp; This book was first published in Greek in 2001 and translated by various hands in 2007. &amp;nbsp;Overall, the book is similar in conception to the Bakker volume, but more extensive (the first subsection on "the language phenomenon" seems out of place to me). &amp;nbsp;I have read only a fraction of the work, but some standout chapters are the ones by Claude Brixhe (History of the alphabet: Some guidelines for avoiding oversimplifications) and Julian Mendez Dosuna (on Doric and Aeolic). &amp;nbsp;Particularly relevant for Latin are the chapters on Greek and Latin contact by Robert Coleman and on evidence for Vulgar Latin from modern Greek dialects by N. Katsanis. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6622277595775180156?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6622277595775180156/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/07/addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6622277595775180156'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6622277595775180156'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/07/addendum.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TEHWXlEmsXI/AAAAAAAAAOU/jq-XDjz-F8E/s72-c/6748.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5579059882345621216</id><published>2010-06-24T10:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-24T10:49:51.537-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TCOaimqVERI/AAAAAAAAAN0/YxACtacDLhk/s1600/15329.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TCOaimqVERI/AAAAAAAAAN0/YxACtacDLhk/s400/15329.jpg" width="300" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 144 following Benedetti 1996 I tried to limit the so-called &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;littera&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;or &lt;i&gt;Iuppiter&lt;/i&gt; rule to high vowels of diphthongal origin, but the facts are more complicated and interesting. I refer you to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://conf.ling.cornell.edu/weiss/Observations_on_the_littera_rule.pdf"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;handout of a recent talk of mine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Thanks to Michiel De Vaan for useful comments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5579059882345621216?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5579059882345621216/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum_24.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5579059882345621216'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5579059882345621216'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum_24.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TCOaimqVERI/AAAAAAAAAN0/YxACtacDLhk/s72-c/15329.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8189333813716209664</id><published>2010-06-17T08:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-17T08:34:05.305-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TBo--o9ckfI/AAAAAAAAANc/i2Vw65WQDv0/s1600/Hanciaux.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TBo--o9ckfI/AAAAAAAAANc/i2Vw65WQDv0/s320/Hanciaux.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To the bibliography for "semi-direct" sources of Vulgar Latin given on pg. 504 add Hanciaux 1989-95 (Hanciaux, René. 1989-95. G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;raphies latines vulgaires et variantes orthographiques tirees des manuscrits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Mons: Atelier Offset de l'Université de l'Etat à Mons.) This work of which seven volumes have appeared to date is an alphabetical listing of "incorrect" spellings found in the manuscripts of various classical and late antique authors. It is all very undigested, but valuable if one is trying to find examples. For example, the spelling &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;calligat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'is dark' for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cālīgat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;is attested in ms. H of Aetna 312. &amp;nbsp;Ms. Helmstadtiensis 332 dates from the 15th century, but the geminate &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;l&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; spelling is not worthless since we know that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;calligo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cālīgō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; was stigmatized in the Appendix Probi and some Romance forms, e.g.&amp;nbsp;Nuor. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;gaḍḍíndzu &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;‘the staggers’—a form of mad cow disease—continue the geminate&lt;i&gt; l&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8189333813716209664?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8189333813716209664/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum_17.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8189333813716209664'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8189333813716209664'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum_17.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TBo--o9ckfI/AAAAAAAAANc/i2Vw65WQDv0/s72-c/Hanciaux.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8908097173465375460</id><published>2010-06-15T18:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-15T18:03:07.861-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Now with More Sound Changes!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TBgiq0AVQoI/AAAAAAAAANU/3gnEsVGflp0/s1600/454982911v1_480x480_Front_Color-Royal.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TBgiq0AVQoI/AAAAAAAAANU/3gnEsVGflp0/s320/454982911v1_480x480_Front_Color-Royal.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8908097173465375460?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8908097173465375460/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/now-with-more-sound-changes.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8908097173465375460'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8908097173465375460'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/now-with-more-sound-changes.html' title='Now with More Sound Changes!'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TBgiq0AVQoI/AAAAAAAAANU/3gnEsVGflp0/s72-c/454982911v1_480x480_Front_Color-Royal.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5778571445718105971</id><published>2010-06-09T16:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-09T17:10:26.265-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Multiple Corrigenda in One Sentence</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;On pg. 25 I write "A favorite locus for the alphabet transfer was one of the Greek trading posts like Posidonios (El-Alalakh) in Syria."&amp;nbsp; This is wrong in a number of ways.&amp;nbsp; First, of all the Greek city in Ancient Syria mentioned by Herodotus (3.91) is called Posideion not Posidonios, which, of course, is the name of the famous Hellenistic philosopher (155-51 BCE).&amp;nbsp; Second, the site sometimes thought to be of possible importance in the transfer of the alphabet is Al-Mina, a coastal site a little south of Samandağ, Turkey not Alalakh, which is a bronze-age site some 50 kilometres inland.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Third, it is not clear that the site of Al Mina is the Posideion mentioned by Herodotus. Other have suggested Ras Al-Bassit in the present-day country of Syria. Finally, see the chapter by Roger Woodard in Bakker's &lt;a href="http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum-to-bibliography.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Companion to the Ancient Greek Language &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;for some doubts about the importance of Al Mina. This mistake rivals t&lt;a href="http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/02/worst-mistake-discovered-yet.html"&gt;he worst mistake discovered yet &lt;/a&gt;for pure and total confusion!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5778571445718105971?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5778571445718105971/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/multiple-corrigenda-in-one-sentence.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5778571445718105971'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5778571445718105971'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/multiple-corrigenda-in-one-sentence.html' title='Multiple Corrigenda in One Sentence'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8629319050246951906</id><published>2010-06-08T12:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-08T12:13:17.016-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TA6V-Rm7rQI/AAAAAAAAANE/WrykcRsuAzY/s1600/einf%C3%BChrung+altitalienisch.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TA6V-Rm7rQI/AAAAAAAAANE/WrykcRsuAzY/s320/einf%C3%BChrung+altitalienisch.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; the bibliography for Italian given on pg. 503 add Michel 1997. This is a very interesting account of the historical grammar of Old Italian with a good selection of commented texts in a variety of dialects. &amp;nbsp;From this book I learn that the historical interpretation of the Italian masc. sg. article &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;il&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; that I give in the book (p. 522) , i.e. &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;illī&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is probably not correct. Instead &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;il&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is prothetic from form earlier ('&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;)l&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; as in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;dove 'l sol tace&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (Dante&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Inf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 1.60) &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ubi illum sole tace&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Another form found in Tuscan until the 16th century is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;el&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, which perhaps is from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;illum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; with apocope, although this too is not certain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Michel, Andreas, 1997. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Einführung in das Altitaliensche&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Tübingen: Gunter Narr.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8629319050246951906?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8629319050246951906/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8629319050246951906'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8629319050246951906'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TA6V-Rm7rQI/AAAAAAAAANE/WrykcRsuAzY/s72-c/einf%C3%BChrung+altitalienisch.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7468508068566773608</id><published>2010-06-04T20:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-04T20:21:24.659-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum to Bibliography</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TAnCXtXhPKI/AAAAAAAAAMs/1TuMh1DSf0Y/s1600/CAGL_.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TAnCXtXhPKI/AAAAAAAAAMs/1TuMh1DSf0Y/s320/CAGL_.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;To the basic bibliography for Greek add&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Companion-Ancient-Language-Blackwell-Companions/dp/1405153261"&gt; Bakker 2010&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; I wrote the chapter on morphology and word formation, which I think is a pretty good sketch of the overall system, although the section on word formation is ridiculously short.&amp;nbsp; Other chapters worth mentioning as especially relevant to the Latin book are &lt;i&gt;Phoinikeia Grammatika&lt;/i&gt; (Roger Woodard) Greek and Indo-European (Jeremy Rau), Phonology (Philomen Probert), Greek and Latin Bilingualism (Bruno Rochette). I will take the opportunity to correct one inaccuracy in my chapter. In explaining the concept of analogy I write "the past tense of the verb &lt;i&gt;strive&lt;/i&gt; in many forms of present-day English is &lt;i&gt;strove&lt;/i&gt;, not &lt;i&gt;strived&lt;/i&gt;, which continues the Old English form."&amp;nbsp; Of course, &lt;i&gt;strive&lt;/i&gt; is a loanword from Old French &lt;i&gt;estriver&lt;/i&gt; and does not go back beyond the 13th century in English.&amp;nbsp; Ultimately, OF &lt;i&gt;estriver&lt;/i&gt; is thought to be of Germanic origin, but there is no Old English ancestor of &lt;i&gt;strive&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Furthermore, as a loanword we would expect &lt;i&gt;strive&lt;/i&gt; to join the productive paradigm, i.e. the weak verbs, and &lt;i&gt;strived&lt;/i&gt; in found from the 14th century on, but the first attested past tense is indeed &lt;i&gt;strove&lt;/i&gt;. So in the case of &lt;i&gt;strive&lt;/i&gt; the adoption of the strong verb pattern on the model of &lt;i&gt;drive&lt;/i&gt; : &lt;i&gt;drove&lt;/i&gt; vel sim. was pretty much instantaneous as soon as the word got into the Middle English lexicon.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Bakker, Egbert, ed. 2010. &lt;i&gt;A Companion to the Ancient Greek Language.&lt;/i&gt; Malden MA:Wiley-Blackwell.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7468508068566773608?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7468508068566773608/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum-to-bibliography.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7468508068566773608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7468508068566773608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/06/addendum-to-bibliography.html' title='Addendum to Bibliography'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TAnCXtXhPKI/AAAAAAAAAMs/1TuMh1DSf0Y/s72-c/CAGL_.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6969391169992670872</id><published>2010-05-30T19:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-30T19:14:19.378-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Typo in Bibliography</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TAMbQ3ucO_I/AAAAAAAAAMk/r407jpwriQQ/s1600/STG53541.gif" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TAMbQ3ucO_I/AAAAAAAAAMk/r407jpwriQQ/s320/STG53541.gif" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Dariusz Piwowarczyk calls my attention to this error in the bibliography. In the entry for Matasović, Ranko. 1997 change &lt;i&gt;latinskogo&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;latinskoga&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6969391169992670872?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6969391169992670872/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/typo-in-biblography.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6969391169992670872'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6969391169992670872'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/typo-in-biblography.html' title='Typo in Bibliography'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TAMbQ3ucO_I/AAAAAAAAAMk/r407jpwriQQ/s72-c/STG53541.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5089000728456773587</id><published>2010-05-28T18:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T18:28:00.649-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A False Quantity in the OLD</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TABtV6NeY4I/AAAAAAAAAMU/YRypfs9ozFI/s1600/azada_romana-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TABtV6NeY4I/AAAAAAAAAMU/YRypfs9ozFI/s320/azada_romana-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The OLD gives the verb &lt;i&gt;sariō&lt;/i&gt; (sometimes written &lt;i&gt;sarriō&lt;/i&gt;) 'I hoe' with long &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;As far as I can tell, this is wrong. &amp;nbsp;The verb apparently only occurs in verse one time at Plautus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Captivi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 663. The line is transmitted as&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;nam semper occant prius quam sarriunt rustici&lt;/i&gt;, but &lt;i&gt;sar&lt;/i&gt;- cannot be a heavy syllable and Nonius, who quotes the line, preserves the form &lt;i&gt;sariunt&lt;/i&gt; and in fact this must be correct since the line only scans (ia6):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;nam semper occant prius quam sariunt rustici&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;A &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;B &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;c &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; D &amp;nbsp; A &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;b b &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; C &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;d d A &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;B &amp;nbsp;c D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Why the spelling with a geminate &lt;i&gt;r&lt;/i&gt; is so common and how it arises is another question, but there is no evidence for the macron of the OLD.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5089000728456773587?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5089000728456773587/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/false-quantity-in-old.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5089000728456773587'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5089000728456773587'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/false-quantity-in-old.html' title='A False Quantity in the OLD'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/TABtV6NeY4I/AAAAAAAAAMU/YRypfs9ozFI/s72-c/azada_romana-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7252456967503320483</id><published>2010-05-27T14:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-27T14:06:27.231-07:00</updated><title type='text'>pesnas</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The Latin word for 'feather' is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;penna&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, which is undoubtedly a derivative of the PIE root *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pet(h2)-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'fly'. If we knew nothing else it would be assumed that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;penna&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; was from *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pet-na&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, but the picture is complicated by the existence of the forms &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pesnis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (Fest. p. 222L) and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pesnas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (Fest. p. 228 L). This has led some scholars, e.g. Meiser 1998:118, to suppose that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;penna&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is from *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;petsna&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and that the outcome of *-VtsnV- was not -V:nV-, as one might have expected, but -VnnV-. This is not totally impossible since &lt;i&gt;pullus&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;putslo&lt;/i&gt;- (cf. &lt;i&gt;pusillus&lt;/i&gt;) shows that at least one *-VtsRV- sequence could lead to&amp;nbsp;-VRRV-. &amp;nbsp;Szemerényi's idea, on the other hand, that &lt;i&gt;penna&lt;/i&gt; is from *&lt;i&gt;pēna&lt;/i&gt; by the &lt;i&gt;Iuppiter&lt;/i&gt; rule is totally impossible. &amp;nbsp;But I think the Festus passage at 228 suggests a solution other than the one favored by Meiser. &amp;nbsp;The passage reads in Lindsay's edition:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Pennas antiquos fertur appellasse †peenas† ex Graeco quod illi πετηνὰ quae sunt volucria, dicant. Item easdem pesnas ut cesnas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;It is evident that what stands between the obels must be emended to &lt;i&gt;pet(V)nas&lt;/i&gt;, as suggested by Mueller, since only if the form had a &lt;i&gt;t&lt;/i&gt; in it would the derivation from Greek&amp;nbsp;πετηνὰ make sense. The second sentence (&lt;i&gt;item easdem pesnas ut cesnas&lt;/i&gt;) means that &amp;nbsp;Festus' source also knew an old form with &lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt;. Thus there were two old forms floating around &lt;i&gt;petna&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;pesna&lt;/i&gt;, just like *&lt;i&gt;putslo&lt;/i&gt;- (Lat. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pullus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;) beside *&lt;i&gt;putlo&lt;/i&gt;- (Osc. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;puklo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-). Thus nothing stands in the way of deriving &lt;i&gt;penna&lt;/i&gt; from *&lt;i&gt;petna&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Whether *&lt;i&gt;petsna&lt;/i&gt; would have given &lt;i&gt;penna&lt;/i&gt; too or *&lt;i&gt;pēna&lt;/i&gt; cannot be answered with certainty. The upshot is that I agree with what I wrote on pg. 168 fn. 3.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7252456967503320483?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7252456967503320483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/pesnas.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7252456967503320483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7252456967503320483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/pesnas.html' title='pesnas'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3237238049662190857</id><published>2010-05-25T07:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-25T07:47:42.493-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Lesser-known Historical Grammars of Latin XV</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S_vixZGm2VI/AAAAAAAAAMM/7mvpYrghlHE/s1600/800px-Brainsik-ermoupoli.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S_vixZGm2VI/AAAAAAAAAMM/7mvpYrghlHE/s320/800px-Brainsik-ermoupoli.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Here is a work I have not been able to get my hands on:&amp;nbsp;Σκάσσης, Ερρίκος Α., vol 1, 1969; vol. 2 1977.&amp;nbsp;Ιστορικη γραμματικη της Λατινικης γλωσσης: μετα διαγραμματος της ιστοριας των Λατινικων γραμματικων ερευνων.&amp;nbsp;Athens.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;This work is available apparently only at the Library of Congress and the University of Sydney.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The author, whom I have never heard of otherwise, was a Greek classicist who wrote, among other works,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;De Macrobii placitis philosophicis eorumque fontibus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Observationes criticae in quosdam locos primi Ciceronis libri qui est de divinatione&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, both published in 1915.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;According to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://pandektis.ekt.gr/dspace/handle/123456789/59933"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black;"&gt;Modern Greek Virtual Prosopography&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Skasses was born in 1884 at&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Ερμούπολη&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;on the island of Syros&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;and died in 1977 at Athens. This work appears to be the only treatment of Latin historical grammar in Greek. Has anyone ever seen this book? &amp;nbsp;I intend to take a look at it when I am in Washington, next month.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3237238049662190857?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3237238049662190857/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/lesser-known-historical-grammars-of.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3237238049662190857'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3237238049662190857'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/lesser-known-historical-grammars-of.html' title='Lesser-known Historical Grammars of Latin XV'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S_vixZGm2VI/AAAAAAAAAMM/7mvpYrghlHE/s72-c/800px-Brainsik-ermoupoli.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2270588455865655300</id><published>2010-05-17T11:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-17T11:26:11.044-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Too good to be true</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;A 2000 article by Pensabene et al. publishes a collection of inscribed archaic and Republican ceramic fragments discovered during excavations on the southwest of the Palatine. &amp;nbsp;Mainly they are one or two letters long and not very interesting, except for the history of the alphabet, but one (p. 198) reads [---]IEVS + [---]. Could this be restored as DIEVS? i.e. the old nominative of the &amp;nbsp;name for the sky(-god) which we know Latin inherited (e.g. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;nudius tertiu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;s).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Pensabene, Patrizio, et al. 2000. Ceramica graffita di età arcaica e repubblicana dall'area sud ovest del Palatino. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Scienze dell'antichità&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 10:162–247.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2270588455865655300?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2270588455865655300/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/too-good-to-be-true.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2270588455865655300'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2270588455865655300'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/too-good-to-be-true.html' title='Too good to be true'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7737882965123461668</id><published>2010-05-16T08:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-16T08:06:43.175-07:00</updated><title type='text'>More on Zeta</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S-_0rI-sWAI/AAAAAAAAALs/txIw-WBPVdM/s1600/VOL+zka" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S-_0rI-sWAI/AAAAAAAAALs/txIw-WBPVdM/s320/VOL+zka" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;On pg. 29, fn. 22 I mention that according to the testimony of Velius Longus the letter Z was not &lt;i&gt;aliena (Latino) sermoni&lt;/i&gt; and was used in the&lt;i&gt; Carmen Saliare&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Subsequently it was banished, perhaps by Appius Claudius Caecus, yielding its place in the alphabet to G, only to be reintroduced at the end of the alphabet in the 1st cent. BCE. In addition, I should have noted that there is one probable epigraphic example of original Z from the Very Old Latin period. A bowl found on the Esquiline in the area of the Villa Altieri in 1876 and dated not later than the VIIth century BCE bears the inscription ZKA.&amp;nbsp; If this text is Latin—the null hypothesis for a inscription of this date and time— this would be, to my knowledge, the sole epigraphical example of Z in its first run in the Latin alphabet. Colonna 1980 suggests that ZKA stands for SKA with Z for S as in Faliscan.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Colonna, Giovanni, 1980. L'aspetto epigrafico del Lapis Satricanus, in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Lapis Satricanus&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Archeologische Studien van he Nederlands Institut te Rome, Scripta Minora V) 's Gravenhage 41–69.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7737882965123461668?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7737882965123461668/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/more-on-zeta.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7737882965123461668'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7737882965123461668'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/more-on-zeta.html' title='More on Zeta'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S-_0rI-sWAI/AAAAAAAAALs/txIw-WBPVdM/s72-c/VOL+zka' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4021219996049333806</id><published>2010-05-13T11:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-13T11:44:59.385-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Bibliographical Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;To the bibliography for Sabellic quoted on pg. 13 fn. 23 and pg. 14 fn. 28 add Triantafillis 2008.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;This work, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Le iscrizioni italiche dal 1979: Testi, retrospettiva, prospettive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, takes Poccetti's 1979 collection as its starting point for updating. &amp;nbsp;It includes the major discoveries—really not that many truly qualify as major—in Sabellic epigraphy with comparison of earlier editions and some epigraphical and linguistic commentary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Poccetti, Paolo, 1979. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Nuovi documenti italici: a complemento del manuale di Emil Vetter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. Pisa: Giardini.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Triantafillis, Elena. 2008.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Le iscrizioni italiche dal 1979: Testi, retrospettiva, prospettive. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Padua: Unipress.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4021219996049333806?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4021219996049333806/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/bibliographical-addendum_13.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4021219996049333806'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4021219996049333806'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/bibliographical-addendum_13.html' title='Bibliographical Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3008157719988430191</id><published>2010-05-13T06:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-13T19:42:09.137-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Curious Coincidence</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;In fn. 20 pg. 26&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;4 I mentioned that the form PRIMO&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;ɔ&lt;/span&gt;ENIA from Praeneste appears to use an inverted C to indicate a segment resulting from the palatalization of a velar. &amp;nbsp;In reading Alfred M. Tozzer's, &lt;i&gt;A Maya Grammar&lt;/i&gt;, I learned that some early Spanish works represented the Mayan glottalized affricate /tsʔ/ with inverted c, i.e.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;ɔ. &amp;nbsp;In fact, this usage is found already in Juan Coronel's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Arte en lengua de Maya&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&amp;nbsp;(1620).&amp;nbsp;Could this practice have been inspired by the conventional view that Claudius' symbol for /ps/was an antisigma, i.e. a reversed sigma&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;? Coronel doesn't discuss the alphabet he uses.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;According to Oliver 1949:253, who incidentally—I take the liberty of saying on my blog—was a thoroughly &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revilo_P._Oliver"&gt;despicable person&lt;/a&gt;, the shape of this Claudian letter as transmitted in the manuscripts of Priscian was approximately &amp;nbsp;ɔc&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;ɔ&lt;/span&gt;, which was introduced by emendation of Buecheler. &amp;nbsp;If this is correct then the early Spanish padres could not have been directly inspired by Claudius' practice. &amp;nbsp;Oliver is certainly not correct in attributing the interpretation of antisigma as&amp;nbsp;ɔ to Buecheler. &amp;nbsp;It goes back at least to A. L. Schneider according to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=G-0AAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA83&amp;amp;dq=antisigma+claudius&amp;amp;hl=la&amp;amp;ei=yiXsS4-oFMOqlAeT4_20CA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=2&amp;amp;ved=0CCcQ6AEwATgU#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;Fr. Osann&lt;/a&gt;, but how much beyond that I can't say.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f; font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f; font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;Oliver, Revilo P. 1949. The Claudian letter  Ⱶ, &lt;i&gt;American Journal of Archaeology&lt;/i&gt; 53:249–57&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f; font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;Tozzer, Alfred M. 1921. A Maya Grammar. Cambridge MA: Peabody Museum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f; font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f; font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f; font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3008157719988430191?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3008157719988430191/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/curious-coincidence.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3008157719988430191'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3008157719988430191'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/curious-coincidence.html' title='A Curious Coincidence'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2383468999169466644</id><published>2010-05-04T16:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-04T16:41:09.659-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Bibliographical Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S-CwYCYFWlI/AAAAAAAAALM/enmnsHrAZc4/s1600/AK_20026688_kl_1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S-CwYCYFWlI/AAAAAAAAALM/enmnsHrAZc4/s320/AK_20026688_kl_1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;To the bibliographical tips offered in the chapter on Vulgar Latin and Proto-Romance (pg. 503) add Kramer 1976, which is a very useful collection of grammatical and literary passages touching on the pronunciation of Vulgar Latin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; font-size: small;"&gt;Kramer, Johannes. 1976. &lt;i&gt;Literarische Quellen zur Aussprache des Vulgärlateins&lt;/i&gt;. Meisenheim am Glan: Anton Hain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2383468999169466644?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2383468999169466644/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/bibliographical-addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2383468999169466644'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2383468999169466644'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/bibliographical-addendum.html' title='Bibliographical Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S-CwYCYFWlI/AAAAAAAAALM/enmnsHrAZc4/s72-c/AK_20026688_kl_1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-9179939105100437122</id><published>2010-05-03T11:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-03T13:06:55.901-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pro(s)thesis</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Add the following to fn. 48 on pg. 511:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;For a detail treatment of prothesis before #&lt;i&gt;sC&lt;/i&gt; as well as other later protheses see Sampson 2009.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Sampson, Rodney. 2009. V&lt;i&gt;owel Prosthesis in Romance. A Diachronic Study.&lt;/i&gt; New York: Oxford University Press.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-9179939105100437122?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/9179939105100437122/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/prosthesis.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/9179939105100437122'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/9179939105100437122'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/prosthesis.html' title='Pro(s)thesis'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6453709820164026394</id><published>2010-05-03T10:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-03T10:19:14.971-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Geminate Consonants</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S98FZ9pguRI/AAAAAAAAAK0/gFTV7wsmQVc/s1600/300px-Roman_Arch_of_Trajan_at_Thamugadi_(Timgad),_Algeria_04966r.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S98FZ9pguRI/AAAAAAAAAK0/gFTV7wsmQVc/s320/300px-Roman_Arch_of_Trajan_at_Thamugadi_(Timgad),_Algeria_04966r.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 66 I note that Latin had distinctive long or geminate consonants and give some minimal pairs, but I should have added some significant restrictions:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;First, the only geminates that occur morpheme-internally are the voiceless obstruents /p, t, k, s/ and the sonorants /m, n, l, r, j/. &amp;nbsp;Voiced geminate stops do occur, but only at a morpheme boundary (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;agger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'earthwork' &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ad-ger&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ad-dō &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;'I add', &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ab-bibō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; ~ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ad-bibō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;) and in loanwords (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;abbas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'abbot' post-classical from Greek from Aramaic, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;addax&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (a type of gazelle), an African word according to Plin. 11.124). &amp;nbsp;Geminate &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;f&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; has a similar limited distribution (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;of-ferō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;suf(f)es&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'chief magistrate of Carthage' from Punic), but there is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;offa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'small lump' whose origin is unknown.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Second, in Classical Latin geminates are limited to medial intervocalic position with the &amp;nbsp;exception of the neuter &lt;i&gt;hocc &amp;lt; *hod-ke&lt;/i&gt;, which is always a heavy syllable in Latin poetry unless shortened by IS. &amp;nbsp;Priscian (Keil 1.592) claims&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 22px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;et sic in antiquissimis codicibus inuenitur bis c scriptum&lt;/i&gt;, but&amp;nbsp;Velius Longus explicitly contradicts this (Keil 7.54: &lt;i&gt;u&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;num c scribimus et duo audimus&lt;/i&gt;).&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;There don't seem to be any certain transmitted literary examples of this spelling in absolute final position but OCC is found on CIL 8.17938 from Thamugadas, present-day Timgad, Algeria. In any case &lt;i&gt;hocc&lt;/i&gt; is at most a partial exception since it formed a phonological phrase with the following word.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;In Old Latin there were more final geminates to judge from Plautine scansions like &lt;i&gt;miless, ess, corr&lt;/i&gt;, etc. See Questa 2007:20 for examples.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6453709820164026394?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6453709820164026394/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/geminate-consonants.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6453709820164026394'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6453709820164026394'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/05/geminate-consonants.html' title='Geminate Consonants'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S98FZ9pguRI/AAAAAAAAAK0/gFTV7wsmQVc/s72-c/300px-Roman_Arch_of_Trajan_at_Thamugadi_(Timgad),_Algeria_04966r.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1954361649163658653</id><published>2010-04-26T17:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-26T19:41:11.821-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Loretum et Codeta</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9YvpmZGMrI/AAAAAAAAAKs/U7baqmONl8I/s1600/Bay-Laurel-Leaf.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9YvpmZGMrI/AAAAAAAAAKs/U7baqmONl8I/s200/Bay-Laurel-Leaf.jpg" width="199" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9YvdI0RNjI/AAAAAAAAAKk/oV4GfWySXUk/s1600/images-2.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9YvdI0RNjI/AAAAAAAAAKk/oV4GfWySXUk/s320/images-2.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 473 fn. 47 in my discussion of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;au&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;I point out that, although the monophthongized rendering of this sound is typically regarded as "non-urban", there are examples of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; for&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;au&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;from Roman inscriptions of the Republican period, some of which are given in fn. 48. &amp;nbsp;In addition one could add that two old Roman placenames show&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;au&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;These are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Places/Europe/Italy/Lazio/Roma/Rome/_Texts/PLATOP*/Loretum.html"&gt;Loretum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'laurel grove', a location on the Aventine (Plin. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Nat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 15.138: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Loretum in Aventino vocatur ubi silva laurus fuit;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; CIL I 2, p. 240 IN LORETO&amp;nbsp;) &amp;lt;— &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;laurus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Places/Europe/Italy/Lazio/Roma/Rome/_Texts/PLATOP*/Codeta.html"&gt;Codeta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, a part of the Campus Martius where horsetail grew (Paul. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Fest&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. p. 58: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ger trans Tiberim quod in eo virgulta nascuntur ad caudarum equinarum similtudinem&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;) &amp;lt;— &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;cauda&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. These show that the monophthongal pronunciation was quite well established in Rome itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;See Bertoldi, Vittorio, 1940. &amp;nbsp;Storia d'un dialettismo nel latino dell'urbe. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Rivista di filologia e d'istruzione classica&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 18:22–33.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1954361649163658653?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1954361649163658653/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/loretum-et-codeta.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1954361649163658653'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1954361649163658653'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/loretum-et-codeta.html' title='Loretum et Codeta'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9YvpmZGMrI/AAAAAAAAAKs/U7baqmONl8I/s72-c/Bay-Laurel-Leaf.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1793172339639257163</id><published>2010-04-23T11:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-24T05:40:57.989-07:00</updated><title type='text'>More on Final -d</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9Hh2ZL7ZaI/AAAAAAAAAKc/QMKzW6PnqSw/s1600/Senatus%2Bconsultum%2Bde%2Bbacchanalibus-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9Hh2ZL7ZaI/AAAAAAAAAKc/QMKzW6PnqSw/s320/Senatus%2Bconsultum%2Bde%2Bbacchanalibus-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;On pg. 155 VI b, my treatment of the loss of final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; in Latin is much too brief. I wrote there:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;-&lt;i&gt;V:d&lt;/i&gt;# &amp;gt; -&lt;i&gt;V:&lt;/i&gt; in the third century BCE: abl. sg. &lt;i&gt;-ād&lt;/i&gt;, -&lt;i&gt;ōd&lt;/i&gt;, SENTENTIAD (ILLRP 511 +), POPLICOD (ILLRP 511) &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;pūblicō&lt;/i&gt;, 36 MED (ILLRP 1197 +) &amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;mē&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;And fn. 37 thereto adds:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Archaizing spellings with final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; continue to turn up until the last quarter of the second century BCE especially in official texts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, a cross-reference to pg. 222 E. 2 should be added where the earliest epigraphical evidence for loss of -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; (241 BCE) is mentioned.&amp;nbsp; The very consistent use of final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; in the SCdB is obviously an archaizing orthography.&amp;nbsp; As many have noted, whereas the text of the SC consistently uses final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt;, the concluding paragraph about the placement of the actual document omits final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; (IN AGRO TEVRANO).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, it should be noted that forms with final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; after long vowels in polysyllabic ablatives are also found in the literary transmission. For example, Naevius wrote (Blänsdorf 5): &lt;i&gt;amborum uxores / noctu Troiad exibant capitibus opertis&lt;/i&gt; where Vossius was the first to recognize &lt;i&gt;Troiad&lt;/i&gt; in the transmitted &lt;i&gt;Troiade&lt;/i&gt;. In Plautus, final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; was not possible even as an archaism in polysyllabic nominal ablatives—there is no trace of the &lt;i&gt;Troiad&lt;/i&gt; type in Plautus.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;And yet the monosyllabic accusative and ablative &lt;i&gt;mēd&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;tēd&lt;/i&gt;— but interestingly not &lt;i&gt;sēd&lt;/i&gt;—do occur. For example, at &lt;i&gt;Cas&lt;/i&gt;. 143 (&lt;i&gt;Hic quidem pol certo nil ages sine med arbitro&lt;/i&gt; (ia6)) the manuscripts transmit and the meter requires &lt;i&gt;mēd&lt;/i&gt;. Similarly &lt;i&gt;tēd&lt;/i&gt;, here the accusative, is read and required at &lt;i&gt;Asin&lt;/i&gt;. 299: Le. &lt;i&gt;quot pondo ted esse censes nudum&lt;/i&gt;? Li. &lt;i&gt;non edepol scio&lt;/i&gt; (tr7). The first line of the &lt;i&gt;Curculio&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Quo ted hoc noctis dicam proficisci foras &lt;/i&gt;was quoted by Charisius (Barwick 1964²:143.24) and Diomedes (Keil 1.441.18) precisely on account of its &lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt;-final form. The forms &lt;i&gt;mēd&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;tēd&lt;/i&gt; do not occur in Terence and the only generally accepted non-Plautine literary &lt;i&gt;mēd&lt;/i&gt; seems to be Enn. frg. var. &lt;i&gt;Epicharm&lt;/i&gt;. 45&lt;i&gt; nam videbar somniare med&lt;/i&gt; (ms. &lt;i&gt;me et&lt;/i&gt;) &lt;i&gt;ego esse mortuum&lt;/i&gt;, but others suggested &lt;i&gt;memet&lt;/i&gt; with excision of &lt;i&gt;ego&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, Plautus also clearly had vowel final allomorphs of the 1st and 2nd sg. pronouns since these form undergo elision, e.g. &lt;i&gt;Pseud&lt;/i&gt;. 375 &lt;i&gt;si id non adfert, posse opinor facere me officium meum&lt;/i&gt; (tr 7) and &lt;i&gt;Asin&lt;/i&gt;. 44 &lt;i&gt;Dono te ob istuc dictum, ut expers sis metu&lt;/i&gt; (ia6). This suggests that the loss of &lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; was sensitive to some prosodic factor, presumably the presence or absence of stress. &amp;nbsp;Since &lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; was always lost in polysyllabic ablatives which never bore the stress on the immediately preceding vowel it must have been after the unstressed variant that -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; was lost. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, it is not really clear that vowel length played a significant role in the loss of -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt;. A recent article by Martin Kümmel has reopened this question. He notes that there are many epigraphical cases of the omission of final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; in perfect 3rd sg. (IOVSI, ILLRP 129, 3rd cent. BCE, Lacus Albanus, etc.) and 3rd pl. forms and argues that the true condition for loss of final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; was after unstressed vowels. Forms like &lt;i&gt;illud, istud, aliud&lt;/i&gt; can be explained as analogical to potentially tonic &lt;i&gt;id&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;quid&lt;/i&gt;. The forms &lt;i&gt;sed, ad, apud, &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;haud&lt;/i&gt; might all be explained as proclitics and hence not true instance of word final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt;. This account does seem the best way to handle the dental-less 3rd sg. forms.&amp;nbsp; For the plural forms in -&lt;i&gt;e:ro(n&lt;/i&gt;) it is still possible in my opinion that &lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; was not lost but assimilated and then simplified.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See Kümmel, Martin J. 2007. The third person endings of the Old Latin perfect and the fate of final -&lt;i&gt;d&lt;/i&gt; in Latin. In K. Jones-Bley et al. eds., &lt;i&gt;Proceedings of the 18th Annual UCLA Indo-European Conference&lt;/i&gt;. Washington D.C.: Institute for the Study of Man, 89–100.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1793172339639257163?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1793172339639257163/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/more-on-final-d.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1793172339639257163'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1793172339639257163'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/more-on-final-d.html' title='More on Final -d'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S9Hh2ZL7ZaI/AAAAAAAAAKc/QMKzW6PnqSw/s72-c/Senatus%2Bconsultum%2Bde%2Bbacchanalibus-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4199928498118588735</id><published>2010-04-21T11:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-21T12:00:17.403-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Will the typos never cease II?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;More corrections from Gregory Mellen:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 521 in the chart for 2nd person singular pronouns V. A. 2, the Italian reflex of Latin&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;te,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;used as the stressed form of the pronoun,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;should be&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;te,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;not&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ti&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 525–7 I have been inconsistent in my treatment of the stage of Italian represented in the tables. On pg. 525 I give under the label OITAL. the Old Italian forms of &lt;i&gt;canto&lt;/i&gt; with reference to the modern standard forms in the alphabetical footnotes to the table. &amp;nbsp;But on pg. 526 I give the modern standard Italian forms under the label OITAL. with reference to Old Italian forms in the footnotes. The simplest correction would be to simply relabel this column as Italian.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 522 fn. 35, discussing the distribution of the &lt;i&gt;lo&lt;/i&gt; form of the masculine definite article I say it occurs—among other places—before &lt;i&gt;ʃC&lt;/i&gt;, but that is wrong. &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;lo&lt;/i&gt; occurs before &lt;i&gt;ʃ&lt;/i&gt;, &amp;nbsp;as in &lt;i&gt;lo&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;sciopero&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;ʃ&lt;/i&gt; does not combine with any other consonant in Italian.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 546 in the Bibliography, under Guastella, read&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"La voce delle dita" for&amp;nbsp;"La voce della dita".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Thanks, &amp;nbsp;Gregory. &amp;nbsp;Keep, dear readers, the corrections coming!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4199928498118588735?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4199928498118588735/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/will-typos-never-cease-ii.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4199928498118588735'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4199928498118588735'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/will-typos-never-cease-ii.html' title='Will the typos never cease II?'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4801242057152169575</id><published>2010-04-21T11:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-21T17:57:48.801-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Will the typos never cease?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S88-pdt0MjI/AAAAAAAAAKU/1QB7F5xJsc4/s1600/AULUS_GELLIUS.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S88-pdt0MjI/AAAAAAAAAKU/1QB7F5xJsc4/s320/AULUS_GELLIUS.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Gregory Mellen, who attended the class I taught last summer at the Leiden IE Summer School and is now studying at Oxford, alerts me to the following typos/mistakes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 246 fn. 22, in the quote from Aul. Gell. 13.21,&amp;nbsp;read&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;nsubidius &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;insupidius&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Incidentally, Aulus Gellius is almost our sole source for information on this adjective and its apparent family. &amp;nbsp;At 19.9.11 Antonius Iulianus quotes some erotic verses of a certain Valerius Aedituus:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Dicere cum conor curam tibi, Pamphila, cordis,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Quid mi aps te quaeram? verba labris abeunt,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Per pectus manat subito subido mihi sudor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Sic tacitus, subidus, dum pudeo, pereo.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;When, Pamphila, I try to tell my love,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;What shall I ask of you? &amp;nbsp;Words fail my lips,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;A sudden sweat o'erflows my ardent breast;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Thus fond and silent, I refrain and die.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;[Translation &amp;nbsp;John C. Rolfe, Loeb edition]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Aside from this passage with two instance of &lt;i&gt;subidus&lt;/i&gt;, Aulus Gellius uses &lt;i&gt;insubidus&lt;/i&gt; &amp;nbsp;(also Aul. Gell. 7.1.2 ("&lt;i&gt;nihil est prorsus istis," inquit, "insubidius&lt;/i&gt;,") 12.2.11 (i&lt;i&gt;nepti et insubidi hominis&lt;/i&gt;), 18.8.1 (&lt;i&gt;quam sint insubida et inertia&lt;/i&gt;), 19.9.9 (&lt;i&gt;tamquam vastos quosdam et insubidos&lt;/i&gt;)) and its adverb &lt;i&gt;insubide&lt;/i&gt; (Aul. Gel. 1.2.4 (&lt;i&gt;intempestive atque insubide&lt;/i&gt;))&amp;nbsp;multiple times. The only other example I've been able to find outside of Gellius is&amp;nbsp;Lampridius &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Vit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Commod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 47 (= &lt;i&gt;Scr. hist. Aug&lt;/i&gt;. 1.99.8) &lt;i&gt;fuit vultu insubido ut ebriosi solent&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The adjective &lt;i&gt;subidus&lt;/i&gt; is usually related to the verb &lt;i&gt;subō, -āre&lt;/i&gt; 'be in heat', but I have to say that if &lt;i&gt;subidus&lt;/i&gt; means 'horny' &amp;nbsp;it contrast rather oddly with the apparently restrained tone of the poem. But perhaps that is the point. In any case the negated forms to judge from context mean 'foolish' or 'lame' (in the modern metaphorical sense). &amp;nbsp;The semantic are also odd 'not-horny' &amp;gt; 'foolish' and perhaps a partial semantic contamination with the family of &lt;i&gt;sapiō&lt;/i&gt; is responsible.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;In that same footnote change Varro (&lt;i&gt;L&lt;/i&gt;. 8.67) to Varro (&lt;i&gt;L&lt;/i&gt;. 8.66).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;On pg. 474 B. 2 for &lt;i&gt;praetor&lt;/i&gt; read &lt;i&gt;pretor. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;The point of the the Lucilius line is the monophthongization of the diphthong &lt;i&gt;ae&lt;/i&gt; in both the name of the office and the office-seeker. &amp;nbsp;The complete line &lt;i&gt;Cecilius pretor ne rusticus fia&lt;/i&gt;t is put together from two quotations: one by the grammarian Diomedes (Keil 1.452.17–18) omits the name &lt;i&gt;Cecilius&lt;/i&gt; and specifically comments on the fact that the letter &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; was removed from the word &lt;i&gt;pretor&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;i&gt;detracta littera a&lt;/i&gt;); the other from Varro &lt;i&gt;L&lt;/i&gt;. 7.96 omits the word &lt;i&gt;praetor&lt;/i&gt; but transmits the name &lt;i&gt;Cecilius&lt;/i&gt; in the ms. F (Codex Florentinus, 11th cent.) and here to0 the context is about the variation between &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;ae&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;ae&gt;and &lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;&lt;e&gt;. &amp;nbsp;All in all there is no doubt that the line should read &lt;i&gt;Cecilius pretor ne rusticus fiat&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/e&gt;&lt;/ae&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;More corrections to come in a subsequent post.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4801242057152169575?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4801242057152169575/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/will-typos-never-cease.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4801242057152169575'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4801242057152169575'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/will-typos-never-cease.html' title='Will the typos never cease?'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S88-pdt0MjI/AAAAAAAAAKU/1QB7F5xJsc4/s72-c/AULUS_GELLIUS.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2131727860203499062</id><published>2010-04-19T10:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-19T10:18:33.778-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The genitive of 5th declension nouns in Cicero</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8yQQ8Q9GtI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/BoQhHEbexWI/s1600/800px-Dehio_212_Cluny.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8yQQ8Q9GtI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/BoQhHEbexWI/s320/800px-Dehio_212_Cluny.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 255 fn. 22 I mention that Aulus Gellius (9.14) claims to have found 5th declension gen. sg. forms in -&lt;i&gt;es&lt;/i&gt; in the manuscripts of Cicero (he quotes &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Sest&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 28 &lt;i&gt;equites vero daturos illius dies poenas)&lt;/i&gt; and—to state it more accurately than I did in the book—affirms his trust in those who claim that a manuscript in Vergil's own hand had &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;dies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; as a gen. sg. at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Georg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 1.208. At &lt;i&gt;Sest&lt;/i&gt;. 28 the manuscript tradition does not apparently preserve any trace of the readings Gellius preferred, but at &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Georg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 1.208, according to the ap. crit. in the Hirtzel OCT, the manuscript known as π, the 9th century Codex Pragensis, is reported by Kvičala to preserve the reading &lt;i&gt;dies&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;There is at least one possible case of the 5th declension gen. sg. in -&lt;i&gt;es&lt;/i&gt; found in the transmission of Cicero. &amp;nbsp;Brent Vine points out to me that at &lt;i&gt;Cael&lt;/i&gt;. 80 the reading &lt;i&gt;plenam spes&lt;/i&gt; is found in B vs. the &lt;i&gt;plenam spei&lt;/i&gt; of most mss. &amp;nbsp;B is the name of the excerpts made by Bartolommeo Di Montepulciano from the lost manuscript of Cluny lent him by Poggio Bracciolini, which often preserves ancient readings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2131727860203499062?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2131727860203499062/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/genitive-of-5th-declension-nouns-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2131727860203499062'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2131727860203499062'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/genitive-of-5th-declension-nouns-in.html' title='The genitive of 5th declension nouns in Cicero'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8yQQ8Q9GtI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/BoQhHEbexWI/s72-c/800px-Dehio_212_Cluny.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1087803511106724250</id><published>2010-04-17T10:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-17T10:08:05.598-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Missing gloss</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 169 at the top the form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;gnīxus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;nīxus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; should have been identified as the synchronic past participle of the verb &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;nītor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'I kneel, lean'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1087803511106724250?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1087803511106724250/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/missing-gloss.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1087803511106724250'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1087803511106724250'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/missing-gloss.html' title='Missing gloss'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-353458996513897191</id><published>2010-04-17T10:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-17T10:00:51.044-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Meters to be named later</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 165 under 4 I quote two Plautine verses to illustrate the typical placement of "anaptycted" forms of the suffix -&lt;i&gt;clo&lt;/i&gt;- at verse end. I should have named the meters. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Capt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. 740 is an iambic senarius (ia6) and &lt;i&gt;Tri&lt;/i&gt;. 726 is a trochaic septenarius (tr7).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-353458996513897191?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/353458996513897191/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/meters-to-be-named-later.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/353458996513897191'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/353458996513897191'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/meters-to-be-named-later.html' title='Meters to be named later'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1817866729842397442</id><published>2010-04-15T09:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-15T09:12:09.224-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Numasioi Vindicated?  Maybe not.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;In a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/02/numasioi-vindicated.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; previous post&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;I mentioned the discovery of an Etruscan form&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;numasianas &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;w&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;hich seems to match the Praenestine Fibula's from NVMASIOI. I further argued that "the form&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;numasianas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;supports&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Numasios&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;and makes it certain &amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Numasios&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;is unconnected with&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;numerus,"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; but an email from Michiel Driessen, the author of the best etymology of &lt;i&gt;urbs&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: black; font-family: Georgia; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;JIES&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;29, 2001, p.&amp;nbsp;41-68)&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Palatino; font-style: italic; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, has made me reconsider at least the second half of this claim. &amp;nbsp;He points out that the medial &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; of the Etruscan form may be the result of weakening and points to the parallel of the praenomen &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Avile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;lt;— &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;avil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'year' which also appears as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Avule&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, and—significantly from Caere—as&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Avale&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; (Cr. 3.23, 5th cent.) The aryballos in question dates to the second half of the 7th century, but weakening is found in the archaic period, so we cannot exclude the possibility that the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is a weakening product. &amp;nbsp;Note too that 7th century forms of the &lt;i&gt;NumVs&lt;/i&gt;- name are found with a medial &lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;-vowel, e.g. &lt;i&gt;Numesiesi&lt;/i&gt; (Ta 3.1). Further since the name &lt;i&gt;numasiana&lt;/i&gt;- is a derivative in -&lt;i&gt;na&lt;/i&gt; and since the base is well attested as ending in&amp;nbsp;-&lt;i&gt;sie&lt;/i&gt;, we would expect the last three syllables to be -&lt;i&gt;siena&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Hence the second a of &lt;i&gt;numasianas&lt;/i&gt; is a weakening product and this strengthens the case for the first a being unoriginal.&amp;nbsp;Thus there is no real objection to deriving the Etruscan forms from an Italic, probably Sabellic, source *&lt;i&gt;nomesiyo&lt;/i&gt;-.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;So is &lt;i&gt;numasianas&lt;/i&gt; totally uninformative in regard to NVMASIOI? &amp;nbsp;I would say not, since it gives a possible source for the always problematic &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; of the Praenestine form, i.e. a re-borrowing from a form with Etruscan weakening.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Times New Roman', 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Times New Roman', 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1817866729842397442?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1817866729842397442/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/numasioi-vindicated-maybe-not.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1817866729842397442'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1817866729842397442'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/numasioi-vindicated-maybe-not.html' title='Numasioi Vindicated?  Maybe not.'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2918313342602859118</id><published>2010-04-14T12:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-14T12:29:59.280-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Bibliographical Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Add Bock 2008 to the bibliography for the prehistory of the 3rd conjugation on pg. 404—5.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Bock, Bettina, 2008. &lt;i&gt;Die einfach thematischen Präsentien in der dritten Konjugation des Lateinischen&lt;/i&gt;. Graz: Leykam.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2918313342602859118?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2918313342602859118/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/bibliographical-addendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2918313342602859118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2918313342602859118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/bibliographical-addendum.html' title='Bibliographical Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7391805352414887324</id><published>2010-04-14T09:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-14T09:55:58.742-07:00</updated><title type='text'>News from Satricum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To the brief list of Very Old Latin inscriptions on pg. 22 add a reference to the 6th century BCE inscription on a fragment of a clay vessel found during excavations of the Acropolis of Satricum in 2002. The text was first edited by Colonna and Gnade in 2003, but a forthcoming article by Béla Adamik, brought to my attention by Brent Vine, and mentioned here with the author's permission, has offered the first plausible interpretation of the fragmentary text. There are two fragmentary texts. Text A written boustrophedon reads:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;[---]IAMAMARC|OMPLACIOM[ (boustrophedon)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;and Text B reads&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;]LOUCIOSx[ (i.e. Loucios + trace of another letter)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Adamik suggest a number of possible restorations, e.g. [&lt;i&gt;esom ser&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;i&gt;ia Mamarcom&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;Placiom&lt;/i&gt;[&lt;i&gt;que&lt;/i&gt;..] but the most important insight is that &lt;i&gt;Mamarcom&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Placiom&lt;/i&gt; are to be interpreted as genitive plurals of names, or in the case of placiom possibly of an adjective. The overall structure of the text would be very similar to Brent Vine's reading of the Garigliano bowl as ESOM... AVDEOM DVOM. Text B might be the remainder of a signature of the artist or commissioner, e.g. &lt;i&gt;Loucios C&lt;/i&gt;.[&lt;i&gt; f. med feced&lt;/i&gt;] vel sim.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Adamik, Béla, forthcoming. Zu den archaischen lateinischen Inschriftfragmenten auf&amp;nbsp;Bruchstücken eines Tonfasses von Satricum. P&lt;i&gt;roceedings of the International Colloquium of Latin Linguistics&lt;/i&gt;, Innsbruck.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Hungarian version of the Adamik paper is available:&lt;br /&gt;Adamik, Béla, 2009. Új archaikus latin felirat Satricumból. &lt;i&gt;Antik Tanulmányok&lt;/i&gt; 53:239–52.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Colonna, G. and M. Gnade, 2003. Dolio con iscrizioni Latine archaiche da Satricum. &lt;i&gt;Archeologia classica&lt;/i&gt; 54:1—21.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7391805352414887324?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7391805352414887324/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/news-from-satricum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7391805352414887324'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7391805352414887324'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/news-from-satricum.html' title='News from Satricum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4983712865923532674</id><published>2010-04-14T06:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-17T09:38:54.803-07:00</updated><title type='text'>More on som</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8XJMbExDyI/AAAAAAAAAJs/MLnvF-UJgxs/s1600/res-274-v_thumb.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8XJMbExDyI/AAAAAAAAAJs/MLnvF-UJgxs/s320/res-274-v_thumb.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The form &lt;i&gt;som&lt;/i&gt; is apparently attested in Portuguese dialects. Leite de Vasconcellos 1970:116 says "Dans le "districto" de Coïmbre, on conserve la forme archaïque &lt;i&gt;são&lt;/i&gt; (et &lt;i&gt;som&lt;/i&gt;) à la 1re pers. Dans l'Algarve: &lt;i&gt;som&lt;/i&gt;," and Rip Cohen points to the following passage in Fernan de Oliveira, &lt;i&gt;Grammatica da lingoagem portuguesa&lt;/i&gt;, Lisbon, 1536, the first grammar of Portuguese:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&amp;amp; mais o verbo sustantivo o qual huns pronunicam em om como som &amp;amp; outros em ou como sou &amp;amp; outros em ão como são e tambem outros que eu mais favoreço em o pequeno como so&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"And also the verb to be, which some pronounce in –&lt;i&gt;om&lt;/i&gt;, i.e. &lt;i&gt;som&lt;/i&gt;, and other in –&lt;i&gt;ou&lt;/i&gt;, i.e. &lt;i&gt;sou&lt;/i&gt;, and others in -&lt;i&gt;ão&lt;/i&gt;, i.e. &lt;i&gt;são&lt;/i&gt;, and yet others, whom I approve of, in short –&lt;i&gt;o&lt;/i&gt;, i.e. &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt;."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I have not yet been able to track down an indisputable Galego-Portuguese, i.e. old, example.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Leite de Vasconcellos, J. 1970. &lt;i&gt;Esquisse d'une dialectologie portugaise,&lt;/i&gt; 2nd ed updated on the basis of notes of Leite de Vasconcellos by Maria Adelaid Valle Cintra. Lisbon: Centro de estudos filólogicos.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4983712865923532674?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4983712865923532674/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/more-on-som.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4983712865923532674'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4983712865923532674'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/more-on-som.html' title='More on som'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8XJMbExDyI/AAAAAAAAAJs/MLnvF-UJgxs/s72-c/res-274-v_thumb.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1704276512073281280</id><published>2010-04-11T18:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-11T18:02:20.159-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Galego-Portuguese 1st singular of the verb 'to be'</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8Jw1Dmsz7I/AAAAAAAAAJk/_XsKEvhAaig/s1600/250px-Martim_Codax_Cantigas_de_Amigo.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8Jw1Dmsz7I/AAAAAAAAAJk/_XsKEvhAaig/s320/250px-Martim_Codax_Cantigas_de_Amigo.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 427 in note b to the table listing the Romance reflexes of the paradigm of &lt;i&gt;sum&lt;/i&gt; I write that Old Portuguese has &lt;i&gt;som&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;sõ&lt;/i&gt;. But this is not quite right. First, my usage is to refer to the language of the oldest texts not as Old Portuguese but as Galego-Portuguese and second, my friend and esteemed teacher Rip Cohen provides the following correction:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;In thirteenth century manuscripts of Galego-Portuguese lyric (compositions spanning the period c. 1220 to c. 1300), the regular form of the first person persent indicative of the verb to be (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;seer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt; &lt;i&gt;sedēre&lt;/i&gt;) is&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sõo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;sono&lt;/i&gt; (cf. It. s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ono&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;). The nasalization represented by the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;til&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;on the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;õ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a vestige of the final&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-m&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The form&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;soon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;also appears, but less often, in those manuscripts, and it may represent a different pronunciation, but at any rate it is still bisyllabic. The forms&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;son&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sõ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, which appear in early sixteenth century copies of thirteenth and fourteenth century poetry must nearly always be corrected to&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sõo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;or&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;soon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;on metrical grounds. And we sometimes find&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;soo&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;where the nasal must be added:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sõo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. To my knowledge, the form&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sou&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;does not appear until well after 1350.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Thank you, Rip!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1704276512073281280?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1704276512073281280/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/galego-portuguese-1st-singular-of-verb.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1704276512073281280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1704276512073281280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/galego-portuguese-1st-singular-of-verb.html' title='Galego-Portuguese 1st singular of the verb &apos;to be&apos;'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8Jw1Dmsz7I/AAAAAAAAAJk/_XsKEvhAaig/s72-c/250px-Martim_Codax_Cantigas_de_Amigo.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-1073750699138302206</id><published>2010-04-10T11:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-14T09:05:49.623-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Intereā etc.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="color: #221e1f; font-family: Times; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 10.1px; margin: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font: normal normal normal small/normal Times;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 354 E in discussing the adverbial forms in -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ā&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; like&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #221e1f;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;inter-eā&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;‘meanwhile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;’ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;I suggest that these forms are&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;most probably old feminine instrumental ablatives, but I failed to mention another attractive possibility proposed by J-L García Ramón that these forms are old feminine instrumentals &amp;lt; *-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;eh2(e)h1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;If that is correct then these would constitute an addition case of the retention of final -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ā&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; in Latin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #221e1f; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 10.1px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #221e1f; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 10.1px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;García Ramón, José Luis, 1997. Adverbios de dirección e instrumental indoeuropeo. In E.&amp;nbsp;Crespo and J. L.García Ramón eds.,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Berthold&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Delbrück y la sintaxis indoeuropea hoy,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Madrid/Wiesbaden:Reichert,&amp;nbsp;113-141.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #221e1f; font: 10px/10.1px Times; margin: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-1073750699138302206?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/1073750699138302206/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/interea-etc.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1073750699138302206'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/1073750699138302206'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/interea-etc.html' title='Intereā etc.'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6898546207878452485</id><published>2010-04-10T07:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-10T07:05:32.522-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Corrigendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8CFfondA5I/AAAAAAAAAJc/W9o08YybF6o/s1600/athena.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8CFfondA5I/AAAAAAAAAJc/W9o08YybF6o/s320/athena.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Professor Michael Johnson of Vanderbilt, a former student of mine at UNC, points out this error:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;n pg 484 A.1.c. for "with any value" read "without any value".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;Thanks, Michael! He also passes along a number of corrigenda corrigendorum, which I have silently fixed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6898546207878452485?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6898546207878452485/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/corrigendum.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6898546207878452485'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6898546207878452485'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/corrigendum.html' title='Corrigendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S8CFfondA5I/AAAAAAAAAJc/W9o08YybF6o/s72-c/athena.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8465803077790498041</id><published>2010-04-09T11:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-09T11:48:19.164-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Monosyllabic Lengthening</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;In regard to the discussion of monosyllabic lengthening on pg. 41, fn. 48 Brent Vine draws my attention to the recent Ph.D. dissertation by M. Kapović, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Reconstruction of the Balto-Slavic Personal Pronouns&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, Zagreb 2006, which has an extensive treatment of the subject (pp. 147–153). Reference to Kapović's work should also be added to the bibliography cited on pg. 325, n. 1.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8465803077790498041?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8465803077790498041/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/monosyllabic-lengthening.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8465803077790498041'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8465803077790498041'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/monosyllabic-lengthening.html' title='Monosyllabic Lengthening'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-73706089729584888</id><published>2010-04-09T10:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-09T10:31:38.036-07:00</updated><title type='text'>VIne Corrigenda</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S79kOzssIYI/AAAAAAAAAJU/Kzru6Je_lEE/s1600/Vine-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S79kOzssIYI/AAAAAAAAAJU/Kzru6Je_lEE/s320/Vine-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Professor Brent Vine of UCLA has been kind enough to send along his list of typos, corrigenda, and addenda. I will post all the simple typos here and post the more complicated issues in separate postings. Thanks, Brent!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 26, n. 13, l. 6: read “to indicate” for “to indicated”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 38 C 5: read “sonorant consonants” for “sonorants consonants”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 40, n. 46, ad fin.: read “pp. 158–9” for “pp. 158”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 121 mid., middle of A.1.: read &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;gifroran&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;giforan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 127, n. 16, mid.: read “into the Classical period” for “into Classical period”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 133, n. 52: read “forms” for “form”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 134, Cat. 85.1: missing macrons in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;quārē&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 143, n. 47: read “may be dialectal” for “may dialectal”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 160, B.1.: Read "-" for “e” + superscript dot and tilde in *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ap-weriō&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 163, n. 18: The cross-ref. should be pg. 156, not pg. 163&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 177, n. 9: read “called” for “call”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;• pg. 198 n. 25, 1st word of last sent.: read “Others” for “Other”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-style: normal;"&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Palatino;"&gt;pg. 334, n. 25: read “a reduction” for “an reduction”&lt;br /&gt;•pg. 360, c.ii., 3rd line fr. bot. of page: For “superlative” read “comparative”&lt;br /&gt;• pg. 368, n. 17, 2nd line: missing “close [single] quote” at the end of the gloss of *&lt;i&gt;tri-sth2o/i&lt;/i&gt;-&lt;br /&gt;•&lt;/span&gt; pg. 549, Jasanoff 2009: Wrong order of editors; should be “Kazuhiko Yoshida and Brent Vine”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-73706089729584888?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/73706089729584888/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/vine-corrigenda.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/73706089729584888'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/73706089729584888'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/vine-corrigenda.html' title='VIne Corrigenda'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S79kOzssIYI/AAAAAAAAAJU/Kzru6Je_lEE/s72-c/Vine-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6794858574781457060</id><published>2010-04-07T09:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-07T09:36:42.960-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Lesser-known Historical Grammars of Latin XIV</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7yzxWgoLII/AAAAAAAAAJE/KYbH5KRuNhM/s1600/Ndiaye_Page_1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7yzxWgoLII/AAAAAAAAAJE/KYbH5KRuNhM/s320/Ndiaye_Page_1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;milia Ndiaye, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;De L'indo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-européen au latin et au grec. Initiation à la grammaire comparée du latin et du grec, avec excercices corrigés, tableaux synthétiques et lexiques &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;was published in 2009 (Brussels: Éditions Safran). &amp;nbsp;The level is very introductory, and there are mistakes, but the book has abundant exercises, which look well designed, and it also has a convenient list of Greek and Latin cognates arranged alphabetically according to the Latin reflex. &amp;nbsp;In the top right of the picture you can see a drawing of the text of TI V.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6794858574781457060?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6794858574781457060/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/lesser-known-historical-grammars-of.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6794858574781457060'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6794858574781457060'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/lesser-known-historical-grammars-of.html' title='Lesser-known Historical Grammars of Latin XIV'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7yzxWgoLII/AAAAAAAAAJE/KYbH5KRuNhM/s72-c/Ndiaye_Page_1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-2977754185172548015</id><published>2010-04-07T06:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-07T06:37:53.206-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Tocharian B Love Poetry</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7yJ3GV86_I/AAAAAAAAAI8/zST2NltYZ94/s1600/300px-QizilDonors.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="155" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7yJ3GV86_I/AAAAAAAAAI8/zST2NltYZ94/s200/300px-QizilDonors.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 22 I quote the famous love poem (Krause and Thomas 1960–64:2.72) as a text sample of Tocharian B:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;[mā] ñ[i ci]sa noṣ śomo ñ[e]m [wno]lme [l]āre tāka,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;mā ra postaṃ cisa lāre mäsketär-ñ&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;But the translation I offered there (No person was dearer to me than you previously, nor will any be afterward) was not very precise. Pinault 20083:32 offers a more accurate rendering:&amp;nbsp;"D'être vivant portant le nom d'humain, il n'en fut pas auparavant de plus cher pour moi que toi, et il n'en sera pas non plus dans l'avenir de plus cher que toi pour moi." śomo ñem wnolme literally means "a being (&lt;i&gt;wnolme&lt;/i&gt;) the name (&lt;i&gt;ñem&lt;/i&gt;) human (&lt;i&gt;śomo&lt;/i&gt;)" and is the Tocharian reflex of the construction familiar from Skt. (&lt;i&gt;āsīd rājā Nalo nāma&lt;/i&gt;) and elsewhere. Notice that Tocharian, like many languages, has no distinct comparative form of the adjective but just uses the positive form plus the standard of comparison in the perlative (&lt;i&gt;ci-sa&lt;/i&gt; 'than you')&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-2977754185172548015?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/2977754185172548015/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/tocharian-b-love-poetry.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2977754185172548015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/2977754185172548015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/tocharian-b-love-poetry.html' title='Tocharian B Love Poetry'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7yJ3GV86_I/AAAAAAAAAI8/zST2NltYZ94/s72-c/300px-QizilDonors.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-5398240203093419632</id><published>2010-04-05T10:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-06T08:10:05.419-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The genitive plural of mare</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: auto;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7ohtAZbucI/AAAAAAAAAIs/garcsPvqLvM/s1600/49b.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7ohtAZbucI/AAAAAAAAAIs/garcsPvqLvM/s320/49b.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 242 I give a complete paradigm of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;mare&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; as an exemplum for the neuter &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-stems, but Erica Bexley of Cornell has called my attention to the fact that the expected genitive plural &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;marium&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is never attested in all of Classical Latinity. I couldn't believe it at first, but it is true. The absence of the the oblique plural forms of &lt;i&gt;mare&lt;/i&gt; was noted by the Grammarians. The 4th-century CE Charisius (p. 38.6 Barwick) wrote:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;maria tamen quamvis dicantur pluraliter, attamen ne marium nec maribus dicemus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(Followed by Ars Bobiensis (M. De Nonno 1982: 29, 22): &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;q&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;uamuis maria dicitur nec marium nec maribus... accipimus &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;and [Augustinus] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Regulae:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;m&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;are maria: sed pluraliter tres casus habet tantum, nominatiuum accusatiuum et uocatiuum, genitiuum datiuum et ablatiuum non habet: non enim dicimus in genitiuo horum marium aut in datiuo his maribus aut in ablatiuo ab his maribus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Priscian (2.351 Keil) gave an actual example of the supposedly nonexistent ablative plural &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;maribus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; from Caesar and quote a line of Naevius with the genitive plural &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;marum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, not &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;marium&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;et sciendum tamen, quod rarissime haec, quae in solam i finiunt ablatiuum, syncopam patiuntur i per genetiuum pluralem. inueni marum pro marium, qui tamen in rarost usu genetiuus, apud Naeuium in carmine belli Punici (Blänsdorf 9):&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;senex fretus pietatei &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; deum adlocutus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;summi deum regis &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;fratrem Neptunum&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;regnatorem &amp;nbsp;marum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;pro marium. eius ablatiuum Caesar in V belli Gallici (5.1) ponit: paulo latiores quam quibus in reliquis utimur maribus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Basically the word seems to have been defective in the plural. &amp;nbsp;The form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;marum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is surprising since we are confident that this word has been an &lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt;-stem for a very long time having an exact morphological match in Old Irish &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;muir&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'sea' &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;mori&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;It must be analogical.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;It's unbelievable that I could have lived 45 years and written a book on Latin historical grammar without knowing this!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-5398240203093419632?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/5398240203093419632/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/genitive-plural-of-mare.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5398240203093419632'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/5398240203093419632'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/04/genitive-plural-of-mare.html' title='The genitive plural of mare'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7ohtAZbucI/AAAAAAAAAIs/garcsPvqLvM/s72-c/49b.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-6832027453472838609</id><published>2010-03-31T12:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-31T12:08:00.270-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Final -a</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7Odgtu2m6I/AAAAAAAAAIc/vwh1a16SVkA/s1600/everest.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7Odgtu2m6I/AAAAAAAAAIc/vwh1a16SVkA/s320/everest.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 148 I say that the fate of final -&lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; &amp;nbsp;(from any potential PIE origin, i.e. *-&lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;, *-&lt;i&gt;h2e&lt;/i&gt; or *-&lt;i&gt;h2&lt;/i&gt;) is unclear. I cite the case of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ita&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, which, if equivalent to Ved. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;íti&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &amp;lt; *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ith&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;, would show preservation of final -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;However, I also note the possibility that it could come from *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;itā &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;with Iambic Shortening. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;This hesitancy is inconsistent with the view I endorse firmly elsewhere that the athematic neuter nom./acc. pl. -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is from &amp;lt; *-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;h2 &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"&gt;(e.g. p. 212)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. If the latter is true, then the outcome of final -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; is definitively known. But this last fact is not absolutely certain. &amp;nbsp;In Sabellic it is clear that the thematic ending -&lt;i&gt;ā&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; *-&lt;i&gt;eh2 &lt;/i&gt;was generalized to athematic forms as Umb. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;tudero&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; 'borders' VI a 15 (where &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;tudero&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; might be standing for /tuderof/, but the extension of the animate acc. pl. ending -&lt;i&gt;f&lt;/i&gt; to the neuter presupposes a form &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;tudero&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;). &amp;nbsp;If this happened in Proto-Italic, independently, or by diffusion in the prehistory of Latin, and if there was a phonological shortening of final &lt;i&gt;-ā&lt;/i&gt;, then the athematic neuter nom./acc. pl. would not be informative about the fate of final short -&lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;But since &lt;i&gt;trīgintā&lt;/i&gt; etc. seem to show that there was no shortening of final -&lt;i&gt;ā&lt;/i&gt;, this scenario seems problematic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;In a recent article George Dunkel (2008) argues that final *-&lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; became -&lt;i&gt;e&lt;/i&gt; on the basis of the suffix -&lt;i&gt;ne&lt;/i&gt;, as in &lt;i&gt;superne&lt;/i&gt;, supposedly from *-&lt;i&gt;na&lt;/i&gt;, which seems to match Hitt. &lt;i&gt;ištar-na&lt;/i&gt;, Neo-Phrygian ενσταρνα. In addition the Umbrian form &lt;i&gt;perne&lt;/i&gt; 'in front' is related to the adjective &lt;i&gt;pernaio&lt;/i&gt;- and the most straightforward way to do this is to start from a pre-Umbrian *&lt;i&gt;pernai&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;This is an idea I have toyed with myself, but I don't feel confident that we can exclude a particle of the shape *-&lt;i&gt;ne&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Dunkel also re-proposes an alternative etymology for &lt;i&gt;nōn&lt;/i&gt;, i.e. by apocope from *&lt;i&gt;nō-na&lt;/i&gt;, the *&lt;i&gt;nō&lt;/i&gt;- of which can be compared with Hitt.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;natta&lt;/i&gt; 'not' &amp;lt; *&lt;i&gt;no-th2(-oh1&lt;/i&gt;). &amp;nbsp;This is attractive since the traditional etymology from *&lt;i&gt;ne-oinom&lt;/i&gt; requires a lot of special pleading.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Dunkel, Georg. 2008. &amp;nbsp;Chips from an Aptotologist's Worshop II. In Brigitte Huber, Marianne Volkart, and Paul Widmer (eds.), &lt;i&gt;Chomolangma, Demawend und Kasbek. Festschrift für Roland Bielmeier zum 65. Geburtstag&lt;/i&gt;. Band II Demawend und Kasbek. Halle (Saale): International Institute for Tibetan and Buddhist Studies, 403–12.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-6832027453472838609?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/6832027453472838609/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/final.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6832027453472838609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/6832027453472838609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/final.html' title='Final -a'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S7Odgtu2m6I/AAAAAAAAAIc/vwh1a16SVkA/s72-c/everest.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3642397986365767588</id><published>2010-03-27T18:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-27T18:51:02.077-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Missing Reference</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Matthew Scarborough points out to me that the reference on pg. 52 fn. 20 to&amp;nbsp; Mayrhofer  2005 does not correspond to anything in the bibliography.&amp;nbsp; The intended reference is:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Mayrhofer, Manfred. 2005. &lt;i&gt;Die Fortsetzung der indogermanischen Laryngale im Indo-Iranischen&lt;/i&gt;. Vienna: Verlag der Österreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Thank you, Matthew!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3642397986365767588?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3642397986365767588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/missing-reference.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3642397986365767588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3642397986365767588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/missing-reference.html' title='Missing Reference'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-7290011502282190052</id><published>2010-03-26T06:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T07:04:14.882-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Melchert Corrigenda XIII</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S6y-su-XOiI/AAAAAAAAAIM/04Nwbc2t3wg/s1600/bronzet2_edited2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S6y-su-XOiI/AAAAAAAAAIM/04Nwbc2t3wg/s320/bronzet2_edited2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;The Hieroglyphic Luvian form that I quote as &lt;i&gt;tamari&lt;/i&gt; 'builds' should be "quoted as as &lt;i&gt;tammari&lt;/i&gt;* (AEDIFICARE+&lt;i&gt;MI&lt;/i&gt;-ri+i). It is never spelled out, and by “Cop’s Law” the -&lt;i&gt;mm&lt;/i&gt;- surely is geminate." This concludes the series of Melchert Corrigenda.&amp;nbsp; Thanks very much, Craig, for your help!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-7290011502282190052?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/7290011502282190052/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-xiii.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7290011502282190052'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/7290011502282190052'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-xiii.html' title='Melchert Corrigenda XIII'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S6y-su-XOiI/AAAAAAAAAIM/04Nwbc2t3wg/s72-c/bronzet2_edited2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8139872181599880203</id><published>2010-03-26T06:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T06:55:37.734-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Corrigendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;On pg. 429 in discussing the paradigm of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;eō&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; 'I go' I wrote "the 1st and 3rd singular have been thematized." Of course, this should read "the 1st singular and 3rd plural have been thematized." and in c.i on that page change 'expect' to 'except'&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8139872181599880203?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8139872181599880203/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/corrigendum_8134.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8139872181599880203'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8139872181599880203'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/corrigendum_8134.html' title='Corrigendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-8076212671166831587</id><published>2010-03-26T06:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T06:49:12.301-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Addendum</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;To the discussion of adverbs in -&lt;i&gt;im&lt;/i&gt; with ablatival force add a reference to Goedegebuure 2007 who has demonstrated that Hieroglyphic Luvian had an ablatival suffix -&lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; &amp;lt; -&lt;i&gt;im&lt;/i&gt; in &lt;i&gt;zin&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;apin&lt;/i&gt; from the pronominal stems &lt;i&gt;za/i- &lt;/i&gt;'this' and&lt;i&gt; apa/i-&lt;/i&gt; 'that'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;Goedegebuure, P. 2007. The Hieroglyphic-Luwian Demonstrative Ablative-Instrumentals &lt;i&gt;zin&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;apin&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;Studi Micenei ed Egeo-Anatolici &lt;/i&gt;49:319–34. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-8076212671166831587?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/8076212671166831587/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/addendum_523.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8076212671166831587'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/8076212671166831587'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/addendum_523.html' title='Addendum'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4495764040457401267</id><published>2010-03-26T06:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T06:40:53.081-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Melchert Corrigenda XII</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;The explanation of the suffix -*&lt;i&gt;sy&lt;/i&gt;- of the feminine oblique demonstratives from *-&lt;i&gt;smy-&lt;/i&gt; needs to be reevaluated in light of the fact that a stem *&lt;i&gt;syo-&lt;/i&gt; 'one' is required for Hittite and Tocharian.&amp;nbsp; See Pinault 2006.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;Pinault, G-J. 2006.&amp;nbsp; Retour sur le numéral 'un' en Tokharien. &lt;i&gt;Indogermanische Forschungen&lt;/i&gt; 110 71–97. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4495764040457401267?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4495764040457401267/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-xii.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4495764040457401267'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4495764040457401267'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-xii.html' title='Melchert Corrigenda XII'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-3098911240795349601</id><published>2010-03-26T06:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T17:24:28.415-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Melchert Corrigenda XI</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;On pg. 335 I wrote "Hittite evidence has been taken to suggest that the *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;so&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-/*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;to-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; pronoun originates in the combination of a sentence initial particle *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;su &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;and a sentence-initial particle *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;with an anaphoric pronoun stem *(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;h1)o-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;." But this is unlikely since, to quote a communication of Craig Melchert's, "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;šu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; has now been shown to correlate with past tense and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;ta&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; with present-future. And the latter is with Rieken, MSS 59 (1999) 85-86, likely to be *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;toh1,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; an instrumental to the anaphoric stem. In any case, the Luvian “particle” *-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;sod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; attached to neuter nom.-acc. singulars shows that Anatolian had *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;so&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;- as well as *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;- as a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;deictic/anaphoric stem. NB also dat. sg. enclitic *-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;soi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;. The peculiar suppletion in the *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;so&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;- paradigm is likely to be very ancient. Anatolian shows no trace of it because it almostentirely eliminated that entire pronoun in favor of *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;obho&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;-."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-3098911240795349601?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/3098911240795349601/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-xi.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3098911240795349601'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/3098911240795349601'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-xi.html' title='Melchert Corrigenda XI'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4752367475760272550</id><published>2010-03-26T06:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T06:23:28.535-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Melchert Corrigenda X</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;On pg. 326 the Lydian form &lt;i&gt;e~&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;mi-&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; (tilde over e) is wrongly cited as the accusative of the 1st person singular pronoun.&amp;nbsp; It is in fact the possessive adjective.&amp;nbsp; The real nominative and accusative is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;amu&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/6772880088478626099-4752367475760272550?l=ohcgl.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/feeds/4752367475760272550/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-x.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4752367475760272550'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6772880088478626099/posts/default/4752367475760272550'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ohcgl.blogspot.com/2010/03/melchert-corrigenda-x.html' title='Melchert Corrigenda X'/><author><name>Michael Weiss</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00296754758111928693</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/SvjYVvMKISI/AAAAAAAAAAM/cr9s6DhjQhQ/S220/M2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6772880088478626099.post-4591025792646856376</id><published>2010-03-26T06:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T06:16:18.457-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Melchert Corrigenda IX</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S6yzfVdtvXI/AAAAAAAAAH0/PCOk1a6x00w/s1600/images-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dk9pBEBU8R4/S6yzfVdtvXI/AAAAAAAAAH0/PCOk1a6x00w/s320/images-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;On pg. 310–1 I endorse the claim of Jasanoff that&amp;nbsp; animate &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;n&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;-stems retained their &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;n&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; in the nominative singular&amp;nbsp; after&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; ē&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; in hysterokinetics but lost their final -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;n &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;after&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; ō&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;, chiefly in amphikinetics.&amp;nbsp; However, the Hittite evidence does not support this view.&amp;nbsp; If Hittite MUNUS-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;anza&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; 'woman' is to be read /kwanza/&amp;nbsp; reflecting a root noun *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;gwōns&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;, that would suggest survival of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;n&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; and recharacterization with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;s&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;.&amp;nbsp; On the other hand if Hitt. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;aliyaš&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; 'deer' reflects an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;n&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;-stem nominative *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;h1olē+s.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt; Of course, these facts do not settle the question of&amp;nbsp; the true distribution of n-ful and n-less nominatives.&amp;nbsp; 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